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Originally Posted by ipozestu
I have no interest in gods will. I do have interest in countries that harbor terrorists. Blah Blah Pakistan is an ally. IMO BS. If they weren't a Nuclear power they would be on our ish list too.
Ignorant I am not
Religion has no ties to race
Even a retard could figure out a positive to this.
Ignorant I am not
Religion has no ties to race
Even a retard could figure out a positive to this.
You ****ing moron these are people we are talking about. Not terrorists, ****ing people just like you and me! "Lets not help them because they have terrorists". BS! These people who got killed arn't the ones who are attacking us. These are regular people who have no money, and now no home. \
This is the ignorant american point of view that I can't stand about this country. We have very smart people, but we have some people, with the mentality of "if it dosn't affect us, why bother?" who need to get their red white and blue out their asses and look at the world around you. Is it just republicans? Hell no! There are many democrats guilty of this too.
Goddamn...
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Originally Posted by Imprezastifan88
What a dolt!
You ****ing moron these are people we are talking about. Not terrorists, ****ing people just like you and me! "Lets not help them because they have terrorists". BS! These people who got killed arn't the ones who are attacking us. These are regular people who have no money, and now no home. \
This is the ignorant american point of view that I can't stand about this country. We have very smart people, but we have some people, with the mentality of "if it dosn't affect us, why bother?" who need to get their red white and blue out their asses and look at the world around you. Is it just republicans? Hell no! There are many democrats guilty of this too.
Goddamn...
You ****ing moron these are people we are talking about. Not terrorists, ****ing people just like you and me! "Lets not help them because they have terrorists". BS! These people who got killed arn't the ones who are attacking us. These are regular people who have no money, and now no home. \
This is the ignorant american point of view that I can't stand about this country. We have very smart people, but we have some people, with the mentality of "if it dosn't affect us, why bother?" who need to get their red white and blue out their asses and look at the world around you. Is it just republicans? Hell no! There are many democrats guilty of this too.
Goddamn...
The attitude that impozestu and HD portray is exactly why most of the world views us with the hatred that they do.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
+1 Good Post
The attitude that impozestu and HD portray is exactly why most of the world views us with the hatred that they do.
The attitude that impozestu and HD portray is exactly why most of the world views us with the hatred that they do.
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
Exactly. That attitude is the same reason soldiers in Iraq are getting hit with IEDs. If we didn't carry our ethnocentric idealism with us all the time (and into others countries) people probably would hate us so bad. Like Lewis Black said, if a guy in your office came in everyday and said "I'm the greatest motha ****er here!!! And without me, all you snivelling ****s would die". On the third day, you'd kill him.
Who attacked who again. Who claims that all are infidels military and civilian alike. Who called the acts of mother nature the will of Allah. Go ahead and open your bleeding heart to an enemy that would prefer to tear it out of your chest than recieve the compassion your willing to give. Threre is no way to change to preception the islamic world has for infidels. Allah deems it so.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
Not sure if you are being serious or the sarcasm quotes are on but.....I wouldn't go to that extreme with the IEDs but we do foster alot of hatred because we are seen as arrogant *******s. The problem I have with the statements made by those two is in regards to being pissed off that we are sending aid to these countries where people (women, children, etc.) have died. If by our goodwill and the aid we send, we change the mindset of a few people over there and how they view us, and a few people lived another day then it was worth all the millions we spent.
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Originally Posted by ipozestu
Who attacked who again. Who claims that all are infidels military and civilian alike. Who called the acts of mother nature the will of Allah. Go ahead and open your bleeding heart to an enemy that would prefer to tear it out of your chest than recieve the compassion your willing to give. Threre is no way to change to preception the islamic world has for infidels. Allah deems it so.
Whatever man...you write them off, I'll still hope for them and give them a hand when nature beats them up. Hopefully you're not one of the conservatives that claims he's Christian...compassion for those who hate you is sort of a theme in that religion.
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
No, I meant it. The majority of the people in the countries we occupy really do like us. There is a small minority that has a hatred for us that you can not begin to fathom. If you can comprehend what it'd be like to die in a burning vehicle you might be able to understand that mindset it takes to wish that on someone.
Exactly why ipozestu's post pissed me off.
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Originally Posted by 1reguL8NSTi
No, I meant it. The majority of the people in the countries we occupy really do like us. There is a small minority that has a hatred for us that you can not begin to fathom. If you can comprehend what it'd be like to die in a burning vehicle you might be able to understand that mindset it takes to wish that on someone.
Originally Posted by ipozestu
Who attacked who again. Who claims that all are infidels military and civilian alike. Who called the acts of mother nature the will of Allah. Go ahead and open your bleeding heart to an enemy that would prefer to tear it out of your chest than recieve the compassion your willing to give. Threre is no way to change to preception the islamic world has for infidels. Allah deems it so.
Living in Southeastern Michigan I have the unique opportunity to live near the largest concentration of Arabic muslims outside of the middle east and I have the pleasure of knowing some very nice people. Two of them, ex-Iraqi citizens are avid Bush supporters giving much of their hard earned money to his campaign. They even have pictures up in their store with themselves and GWB. Two great guys who I have had many converstations with over the years in regards to Iraq and the war, and I have to tell you they are nothing like how you seem to believe they would be.
Last edited by SilverScoober02; Oct 10, 2005 at 01:11 PM.
Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I know and by offering our help in these situations we may change some peoples perception of us even more. Every little bit helps. I don't buy into the Allah deems it that way BS that impozestu is spewing.
Flawed logic man. Muslims do not think like this^^^^ Fundamentalist Muslims maybe but fundamentalism is scary in any religion.
Living in Southeastern Michigan I have the unique opportunity to live near the largest concentration of Arabic muslims outside of the middle east and I have the pleasure of knowing some very nice people. Two of them, ex-Iraqi citizens are avid Bush supporters giving much of their hard earned money to his campaign. They even have pictures up in their store with themselves and GWB. Two great guys who I have had many converstations with over the years in regards to Iraq and the war, and I have to tell you they are nothing like how you seem to believe they would be.
Flawed logic man. Muslims do not think like this^^^^ Fundamentalist Muslims maybe but fundamentalism is scary in any religion.
Living in Southeastern Michigan I have the unique opportunity to live near the largest concentration of Arabic muslims outside of the middle east and I have the pleasure of knowing some very nice people. Two of them, ex-Iraqi citizens are avid Bush supporters giving much of their hard earned money to his campaign. They even have pictures up in their store with themselves and GWB. Two great guys who I have had many converstations with over the years in regards to Iraq and the war, and I have to tell you they are nothing like how you seem to believe they would be.
If it was the mindset of a few in the countries that "really do like us" in particular islamic states. You'd think the "majority" would be more than capable for controlling the minority. The facts being the "majority" has yet to stand up and seriously condem the actions of the minority. The affect that this "minority" has on the "majority" is inconceivable. See there really isn't a minority and majority. You need to come to terms with the fact that this is a world war. The state of islam has called for a Jihad. Do you understand the implication of a Jihad?
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I (and pretty much everyone here) understand Jihad better than you understand the Islamic religion. What you are spewing is pure propaganda, and actually strengthens those who wish harm on us. Do some reading and come back; most of the Muslim world would love to get along with us.
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Originally Posted by MVWRX
I (and pretty much everyone here) understand Jihad better than you understand the Islamic religion. What you are spewing is pure propaganda, and actually strengthens those who wish harm on us. Do some reading and come back; most of the Muslim world would love to get along with us.
Ignorance will get you nowhere on this forum ipoz.....
Last edited by SilverScoober02; Oct 10, 2005 at 01:11 PM.
Originally Posted by MVWRX
Whatever man...you write them off, I'll still hope for them and give them a hand when nature beats them up. Hopefully you're not one of the conservatives that claims he's Christian...compassion for those who hate you is sort of a theme in that religion.
Originally Posted by ipozestu
If it was the mindset of a few in the countries that "really do like us" in particular islamic states. You'd think the "majority" would be more than capable for controlling the minority. The facts being the "majority" has yet to stand up and seriously condem the actions of the minority. The affect that this "minority" has on the "majority" is inconceivable. See there really isn't a minority and majority. You need to come to terms with the fact that this is a world war. The state of islam has called for a Jihad. Do you understand the implication of a Jihad?


