not very smart you are.

more power = less understeer

lmao

 

yes yes.. more power does not necessarily mean less understeer. in fact it does nothing to change the natural characteristics of the car's handling. the car understeer's pretty much all the time except when driven 10/10ths.. which most people do not do...
play with the suspension to help reduce understeer: rear sway bars, camber adjustments, etc. can help

 

and to answer the initial question:
i think, that although the wrx DOES plough (sp?) a considerable amount, if when driven, u realize that the car understeers, and drive accordingly, it's not that bad...
i rather enjoy driving a stock wrx at the track
but perhaps i am strange

 

plow

 

Unless you have like 400hp plus, which you don't... You cannot use power oversteer in the WRX as a consistent cornering technique at a decent speed. Hell even when you have that much power it just means you can keep the slide going for longer, to initiate it you still have to use some sort of weight shifting technique. I say you are wrong my friend. You need to remember you drive an AWD car and not a mustang! Have you seen that video of the JUN Evo drifting? That car was setup specifically for the drift event, has obscene amounts of horsepower and you still have to flick it to initiate the drift. Of course then you can light up all four with all that horsepower but the fact still remains, power doesn't equal oversteer.... Unless you drive a RWD and even then only to a certain extent....

 

Plough is the British spelling I believe. You're both right!

 

Save your dow and get a rear anti-sway bar.

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I've never gotten the rear loose on corner exit by applying throttle even with my Cusco rear adjustable bar set at the middle hole. The car just plants the rear when power is applied. Sometimes it feels more like a front-wheel drive car but never like a rear-drive car. I do get the rear to rotate by lifting off the throttle or braking into corners, though, helping turn-in noticeably.

The Impreza suspension is very forgiving, almost idiot-proof, and won't get you into a snap oversteer situation.

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"…axles of evil…" - george w. bush

 

the wrx, imo, does understeer way to much. To help aleviate this problem I first purchased a set of Nitto NT555 tires to go with my 18" enkei rpm2 wheels. This helped with the amout of grip i had going into turns but not the body roll and understeer. there are ways to get around it like letting off the throttle in mid turn or having lower tire pressure in the rear. the problem i had with the low pressure was the car would fishtail very easily giving you a cool feeling but essentally slowing you down. I finally purchased a perrin sway bar and endlinks for the back of the car from axronline and it was a world of diffrence. the body roll has been drastically reduced and the car has neutral to oversteer handeling charistics. I was able to equal out the tire pressure and regain grip. the car now is much easier to handle at high speeds. I deffinalty recommed the swaybar it makes a huge diffrence.

 

if you think that the WRX has understeer try driving a 95 1.8 with no rsb then let me know if you still think the WRX understeers

 

more power just means you may reach 10/10th easier, but it still does not change the laws of physics in weight transfer...

 

it's hard to get the rear loose by applying throttle because when throttle is applied, the weight of the car is shifted to the rear tires giving the rear tires more traction. if you want the rear to come around, you have to lift, or trail brake (as you have noticed). this shifts the weight towards the front of the car helping the car steer better (more traction in front) as well as lets the rear have less traction helping it to swing around
throttle steer = fun stuph

 

This question has been debated to death, so let me summarize:

1) Understeer is a safer more forgiving condition for an average driver, the WRX has it dialed in from the factory for safety.

2) Off-throttle oversteer is easily achieved with the stock suspension.

4) There are many inexpensive and expensive ways to achieve it, if you do a search you'll find many good suggestions. Here are some:

* http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/index1.html
* Get an alignment http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/index1.html
* Stiffen rear/Soften front
* Get a sway bar
* Get performance springs/struts to adjust balance to your liking.

Just remember, going too stiff on the sway bars will DECREASE your grip on uneven surfaces (gravel, dirt, ice) by making your suspension less independent.