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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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Time to upgrade, input wanted

Hi everyone, let me start by saying thanks for reading and thanks for the input it helps a lot.

Currently, my 06 wrx sedan, is on the following
bridgestone potenza pe oi R 245/45/17
Tein s techs
fenders rolled and pulled haha,
kart boy end links
everything else is stock

I would want to get coil overs, but i do not want to drop the cash for them until a little later. BC seems to be the route i would go as they're cheaper but still very good, i don't need damper adjustment
I plan on tracking the car occasionally, some mountain driving, and im thinking about rally cross more and more haha. mostly just a DD, but i like to go WOT and go on fun windy mountain driving once a week.

I have been doing research, and i'm trying to create a master list of parts that i want to get to help stiffen up my suspension and create a better handling car.
Please add to this and anything helps.

these are just the items i've been hearing will help a lot
front and rear sway bars
bushings
coilovers (or i'm considering cobb/eibach/spt pink springs)
i have upgraded engine and tranny mounts already

Any brand recommendation or other parts i'm missing please feel free to add in,
i am planning on getting all these parts over a month or 2 span, then installing them all together, and getting an alignment done to maximize bang for the buck.
as far as budget, as cheap as possible, but i don't want to take shortcuts or have crappy parts. I am hoping to keep it under $700.
Thanks in advance! any info you need ask! i probably left something out.
Old Feb 18, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Take them Teins off, like now. Can't wait to tear mine out, only reason they're there is b/c the last owner put em on, and the only reason they're still on is some unforseen issues kept the guys at the shop from taking them off last time.

Bushings are good, and to that end Whiteline's great. I know a guy who doesn't believe in the need for coilovers, as he's pretty well Whiteline'd out his car, which rides like a magic carpet I'll have you know.

Crossmember bushings, cheap n good. And the rear dif cradle and outrigger bushings will help tremendously with any drivetrain slap you might have.

I recently put in new motor and transmission mounts (Megan Racing ones - so far as I know they're just like the Group-Ns at $100 less), and it has made a better difference, so good that you've that already. Done the pitch stop too? If you want to work on the exhaust/tuning down the road, the mounts, clutch and transmission are prohibitive factors in how many ponies you can fit under the hood, no matter the size of your turbo and all that entails.

As for cheap, well, that's relative in the Subie world. I've found there's moderately expensive, and it only goes from there. And what won't get you in parts costs will in labor, unless you've a crew or wana dive in on your own, an investment in time and tools and risk in itself.

If you're willing to do the work yourself, $700 will Whiteline out your ride, though will be manifest in polyurethane bits alone, no new hardware. Don't forget getting aligned afterwards, ideally just once, $100 easy there. And don't overlook what playing with your alignment settings there can do handling wise, though that's a topic in itself. Many of the Whiteline bushings can help with that too, either getting the depth of angle you're aiming for or just making both sides of the car even.


tl;dr get a Whiteline rear sway bar on your car and see what that does for you. Install on ramps/jacks is about an hour. It's one of the more dramatic changes you can do handling wise. See what others say, and go from there.

Rear, maybe front tower strut bars are a cheap little add on too - effect is fairly noticable. Mine are some eBay fare, and they work just fine.
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by de_engineered
Take them Teins off, like now. Can't wait to tear mine out, only reason they're there is b/c the last owner put em on, and the only reason they're still on is some unforseen issues kept the guys at the shop from taking them off last time.

Bushings are good, and to that end Whiteline's great. I know a guy who doesn't believe in the need for coilovers, as he's pretty well Whiteline'd out his car, which rides like a magic carpet I'll have you know.

Crossmember bushings, cheap n good. And the rear dif cradle and outrigger bushings will help tremendously with any drivetrain slap you might have.

I recently put in new motor and transmission mounts (Megan Racing ones - so far as I know they're just like the Group-Ns at $100 less), and it has made a better difference, so good that you've that already. Done the pitch stop too? If you want to work on the exhaust/tuning down the road, the mounts, clutch and transmission are prohibitive factors in how many ponies you can fit under the hood, no matter the size of your turbo and all that entails.

As for cheap, well, that's relative in the Subie world. I've found there's moderately expensive, and it only goes from there. And what won't get you in parts costs will in labor, unless you've a crew or wana dive in on your own, an investment in time and tools and risk in itself.

If you're willing to do the work yourself, $700 will Whiteline out your ride, though will be manifest in polyurethane bits alone, no new hardware. Don't forget getting aligned afterwards, ideally just once, $100 easy there. And don't overlook what playing with your alignment settings there can do handling wise, though that's a topic in itself. Many of the Whiteline bushings can help with that too, either getting the depth of angle you're aiming for or just making both sides of the car even.

tl;dr get a Whiteline rear sway bar on your car and see what that does for you. Install on ramps/jacks is about an hour. It's one of the more dramatic changes you can do handling wise. See what others say, and go from there.

Rear, maybe front tower strut bars are a cheap little add on too - effect is fairly noticable. Mine are some eBay fare, and they work just fine.
I would get off teins but I don't have stocks
Waiting to decide which spring/coilover I like best unsure yet.

I've been thinking about going ALL white line like your friend... But I like Cobb products a lot, and spt.

This is a weird situation, but I found a guy on Craigslist who is selling sti pink springs and Kyb struts that he had professionally drilled to fit a wrx. Any thoughts on that?

That was a very helpful reply thanks!
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 09:45 AM
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I have Teins and still can't understand why everyone trash talks them so badly. I have yet to have a bad experience with them.....
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX~Mike
I have Teins and still can't understand why everyone trash talks them so badly. I have yet to have a bad experience with them.....
The official Tein S-tech FAQ - NASIOC
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 10:38 AM
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Yeah go White Line Flat out the best....

Ha Ha you see what I did there. Little play one words......

Seriously though Add the sways front and back, and the bushings, and the end links.

See how you like the ride, then choose a coilover, or a shock spring setup.

I have the full perrin suspension kit on mine which came with the car and my rear end slaps like a strippers butt. I am running Cobb springs which I dont know if they make any more, and they are a little soft for my taste.

Read up on NASIOC and here get opinions. it will be fun either way especially if you install it all yourself.
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Originally Posted by Shayhan27
Yeah go White Line Flat out the best....

Ha Ha you see what I did there. Little play one words......

Seriously though Add the sways front and back, and the bushings, and the end links.

See how you like the ride, then choose a coilover, or a shock spring setup.

I have the full perrin suspension kit on mine which came with the car and my rear end slaps like a strippers butt. I am running Cobb springs which I dont know if they make any more, and they are a little soft for my taste.

Read up on NASIOC and here get opinions. it will be fun either way especially if you install it all yourself.
I want very still sprigs if i end up gettin them.
I'm probably picking up sti springs professionally drilled for wrx with Kyb struts this week, and a rear sway bar.

Does a front sway bar help enough to justify buying it or would you just get a rear?
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shayhan27
I have the full perrin suspension kit on mine which came with the car and my rear end slaps like a strippers butt. I am running Cobb springs which I dont know if they make any more, and they are a little soft for my taste.
The earlier Cobb springs are Cobb's take on S-Techs. Slammer springs. They later revised them and reduced the drop. I'm not sure how the spring rates were changed though.

Originally Posted by Will George
I want very still sprigs if i end up gettin them.
I'm probably picking up sti springs professionally drilled for wrx with Kyb struts this week, and a rear sway bar.

Does a front sway bar help enough to justify buying it or would you just get a rear?
STI springs don't need to be drilled. GR-2s or AGXs?

Get a front sway bar too. Several mm thicker than the rear.
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brfatal

The earlier Cobb springs are Cobb's take on S-Techs. Slammer springs. They later revised them and reduced the drop. I'm not sure how the spring rates were changed though.

STI springs don't need to be drilled. GR-2s or AGXs?

Get a front sway bar too. Several mm thicker than the rear.
Thoughts on away bar brand? I'm thinking Cobb right now... They alwys make great products
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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There are differences in brand. Though I honestly doubt that most people could ever tell a difference between the different designs.

- Hotchkiss
- Cobb
- Whiteline
- Cusco
- Perrin
- Eibach.

The front end links are the ones most likely to go. The stiffer the sway bar, but more likely you are to need end links.
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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I say cusco sway. They have endless R&D on those products. I have been to cusco myself and watched prototype parts go around the track.

Next in line whiteline.

Perrin has fitment issues on some runs.
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I say cusco sway. They have endless R&D on those products. I have been to cusco myself and watched prototype parts go around the track.

Next in line whiteline.

Perrin has fitment issues on some runs.
yep stick with whiteline or cusco and for endlinks id say probably kartboy
Old Feb 19, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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yep stick with whiteline or cusco and for endlinks id say probably kartboy
I have kart boy endlnks now, I will look into cusco.
Thanks guys! Can't wait for these parts...
Old Feb 20, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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Someone on the classifieds is selling white line front and rear sways 22mm for 200.
Thoughts on buying used sways?
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Originally Posted by Will George
Someone on the classifieds is selling white line front and rear sways 22mm for 200.
Thoughts on buying used sways?
As long as they look good I dont see where buying used would be an issue unless it is bent, and you cant tell.



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