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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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Hey Skywalker...

I understand that you and Chris have each of the Prodrive street setups. I have a line on a used P1, so I have been looking into the differences between the P1 and the WR setups. Which one rides better? I will only be driving my RS for the purpose of going fast before long, so as long as the ride isn't so harsh it will make me break stuff, I will accept that if the performance tradeoff is worth it.

Anyways, I found that the SPT springs have almost the same rates (within 2 lbs front and 5 lbs rear) as the P1, so I was wondering how the STi V5 struts compare to the P1? Any and all feedback you guys can give me will be appreciated. Oh, most of what I know about these setups comes from Mike Shields, and a few other sources.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I've got a GM6. In case that's important...
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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P1 setup:

Uses Pink Eibach springs specifically designed to Prodrive specs
Uses V5/6 struts.

WR setup:

Uses Eibach Springs, made to Prodrive specs
Uses Bilstein Struts

I have the WR setup and Bill has the P1 setup. I have been in Bill's car and the two setups are pretty equal in terms of stiffness and comfort. There is a minimal drop in ride height for either one of the setups. You cannot go wrong with either setup.
Old Feb 24, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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Yeah I figured Prodrive and Eibach wouldn't go for real low ride height. I thought that the P1 setup was the gray one though? And if it is the same as the SPT springs and V5 struts, why are they priced so differently?
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by BAN SUVS
Yeah I figured Prodrive and Eibach wouldn't go for real low ride height. I thought that the P1 setup was the gray one though? And if it is the same as the SPT springs and V5 struts, why are they priced so differently?
Simple... WR setup has Bilstiens... mucho money!

WR is a little stiffer, a little more made for the track. But a little...

If you're looking for something like stock, but lower, and stiffer, and with much much better dampening, and agility, go with the P1s...

want even more agility, go with the WR setup...

-Gagan
Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Thanks Gagan, that's pretty much the answer I've been waiting for. Looks like my party budget is shot for a few months...
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Thanks Gagan, that's pretty much the answer I've been waiting for. Looks like my party budget is shot for a few months...
lol... for me that's not eating lunch for the rest of the year, or going back to PBJs at home...


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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Yeah, but for me that means not using the gas to go anywhere but work or school... oh wait, I don't go anywhere else anyway...
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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how's aftermarket coilover setup compare w/ the P1 and WR setup? just curious..
Old Feb 27, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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how's aftermarket coilover setup compare w/ the P1 and WR setup? just curious..
I think the WR setup is close to Tien HAs... or that's how i'd describe the feeling between Chris's wagon and Dan's car...

Chris has les bounce, a little more roll, but it's freakin nice...

Dan's setup, how it's set, is bad *** too...

I am poor

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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by 1fastGC
how's aftermarket coilover setup compare w/ the P1 and WR setup? just curious..
The main reasons I didn't hold out for coilovers are A) COST! and B) they require maintenance, are difficult to get exactly right upon installation, and are a general PITA compared to plain old struts and springs. I'm sure a good coilover kit is superior to the P1 or WR on the track when setup right, but it's just not as easy. Plus, I don't even think I have the skills yet to push the P1 to its limits, so the extra $1400 or so for coilovers would be a complete waste at this time.

Plus, I get to put "Prodrive" under my mod list now
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