Let's start a boycott list for Subaru dealers charging over MSRP!
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Let's start a boycott list for Subaru dealers charging over MSRP!
Like the subject line says, let's put the pressure on the Subaru dealers, just like evolutionm.net has done with Mitsubishi Dealers. I already have one to add:
Eddie Accardi Subaru in Pompano Beach, FL.
Asking Price:
"My name is Sam Hamian, I sell cars online for Eddie Accardi Motors in
Pompano Beach. I have received your quote request. I thank you for the
opportunity to earn your business.
Here is your preferred online buyer price.
E-price $38,020.77
This is your out the door price. The car must be ordered. There will be
none to sell at the dealership. The required none refundable down
payment is $2000.
This price is good through Internet department only. Please call me with
your questions and come down to test drive the car.
Best wishes,
Sam Hamian
Internet Sales & Leasing manager
Eddie Accardi Motors
Jeep/Chrysler/Subaru/Dodge/Mazda
direct phone: (954) 784-3368
main: (954) 943-6700 ext:1368
email: shamian@eddieaccardi.com
address: 855 S Federal Hwy - Pompano Beach, FL 33062
check us at www.eddieaccardi.com "
Eddie Accardi Subaru in Pompano Beach, FL.
Asking Price:
"My name is Sam Hamian, I sell cars online for Eddie Accardi Motors in
Pompano Beach. I have received your quote request. I thank you for the
opportunity to earn your business.
Here is your preferred online buyer price.
E-price $38,020.77
This is your out the door price. The car must be ordered. There will be
none to sell at the dealership. The required none refundable down
payment is $2000.
This price is good through Internet department only. Please call me with
your questions and come down to test drive the car.
Best wishes,
Sam Hamian
Internet Sales & Leasing manager
Eddie Accardi Motors
Jeep/Chrysler/Subaru/Dodge/Mazda
direct phone: (954) 784-3368
main: (954) 943-6700 ext:1368
email: shamian@eddieaccardi.com
address: 855 S Federal Hwy - Pompano Beach, FL 33062
check us at www.eddieaccardi.com "
Last edited by Dtech; Apr 24, 2003 at 08:29 AM.
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that is the same price i got from subaru of miami. they said the extra $ was to cover the options.
what options? is there a short throw shifter option for the 6 speed? is a security system standard? what about floor mats? (originally, the STi was to have special blue embroidered mats) cargo net? boost gauge? armrest extension (what is that?)? differential guard?
some dealers just don't want to make buying a car a happy experience.
what options? is there a short throw shifter option for the 6 speed? is a security system standard? what about floor mats? (originally, the STi was to have special blue embroidered mats) cargo net? boost gauge? armrest extension (what is that?)? differential guard?
some dealers just don't want to make buying a car a happy experience.
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The only option available on the STi is a dealer installed radio which I don't want anyway. Froglips, I will PM you about the current situation in the South Florida area.
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There are several dealers selling a right to buy on ebay, dont know who they are but it makes me happy to see that they are not haveing much luck
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=31868
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=31868
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Sorry, forgot to add this one yesterday....
Potamkin Subaru of Miami (as mentioned by froglips)
Agreed via e-mail and over the phone to offer MSRP + tax + tag (no dealer fees).
Visited dealer and talked to the Internet sales person I corresponded with and his arrogant sales manager that loved to tell stories and talk down to me. Sure they were willing to sell for MSRP but they wanted to split the $695 dealer fee (not to mention they had an additonal $50 Document fee underneath that) AND they lowballed my great condition trade by thousands! They basically wanted over MSRP for the STi and wanted to take my trade for less than wholesale, so any way you look at it, they were trying to get their markup.
P.S. My screen name here actually used to be D-WRX, but recently changed ISPs a couple of months ago and couldn't retrieve my login information.
Potamkin Subaru of Miami (as mentioned by froglips)
Agreed via e-mail and over the phone to offer MSRP + tax + tag (no dealer fees).
Visited dealer and talked to the Internet sales person I corresponded with and his arrogant sales manager that loved to tell stories and talk down to me. Sure they were willing to sell for MSRP but they wanted to split the $695 dealer fee (not to mention they had an additonal $50 Document fee underneath that) AND they lowballed my great condition trade by thousands! They basically wanted over MSRP for the STi and wanted to take my trade for less than wholesale, so any way you look at it, they were trying to get their markup.
P.S. My screen name here actually used to be D-WRX, but recently changed ISPs a couple of months ago and couldn't retrieve my login information.
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man that is messed up!!! dealers like that should get a call from SOA and be told they wont get any STi's at all. for i think we all are loyal subaru enthusiasts, and are all finding a way to get rid of our car now to get the wrx or the STi. So if this does continue with alot of dealers the Sti will just sit there in their production plant because of the price gouging. So SOA here your consumers now!! Keep the heel down on those dealers how are asses with the msrp of the STi.
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Here's another one:
William Lehman Subaru
Basically the same situation as I described above for Potamkin Subaru of Miami except I dealt directly with the "Internet Manager" and I did it all via e-mail. In a nutshell, he sent me an e-mail back an offered me MSRP "for this weekend only" and then when I countered and was even willing to pay the MSRP for their car as HE had offered ME, and take between Clean and Average Black Book value for my trade, the end result was no response back from him.
Dealers like these know that pretty much most of the people buying these cars will have a trade-in where they will try and make their markup/added profit back and or with dealer fees. Too bad for them.
**EDIT**
I have recently had e-mail communication with the Sales Manager at William Lehman, and sounds like they are willing to deal. I'll keep everyone posted and the listing updated.
William Lehman Subaru
Basically the same situation as I described above for Potamkin Subaru of Miami except I dealt directly with the "Internet Manager" and I did it all via e-mail. In a nutshell, he sent me an e-mail back an offered me MSRP "for this weekend only" and then when I countered and was even willing to pay the MSRP for their car as HE had offered ME, and take between Clean and Average Black Book value for my trade, the end result was no response back from him.
Dealers like these know that pretty much most of the people buying these cars will have a trade-in where they will try and make their markup/added profit back and or with dealer fees. Too bad for them.
**EDIT**
I have recently had e-mail communication with the Sales Manager at William Lehman, and sounds like they are willing to deal. I'll keep everyone posted and the listing updated.
Last edited by Dtech; Apr 30, 2003 at 05:48 AM.
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yeah we should definitely get a boycott list started here too. the one on evolutionm.net did wonders. let's take a stand and show those dealers that we won't just bend over and pay X amount of money over msrp on the sti's cuz they're on demand.
that's just how i feel
that's just how i feel
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Mad props to you guys in here!! I started the one on evolutionm.net and I'm telling you, it works!! Mark (admin of evom.net) and I get almost death threat emails from dealers pissed at us for "making sales drop". We even had the spotlight on autoweek. If you make enough noise, people start hearing!! Remember, you have the money and you can make or break the deal. Don't let emotion guide you into spending more than you should....just be patient if you can't get your price.
Best Regards,
Rob
Best Regards,
Rob
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Yeah it sucks
Here are production numbers
4000? made 653 dealers
equals about 6 cars per dealer.
They're like dogs who lick there nuts and say "because I can".
We in Hawaii still have the Aloha spirit we send leis to New York
for 9/11 and... we sell STIs at $33313.30 O.T.D direct from Japan.
Aloha
4000? made 653 dealers
equals about 6 cars per dealer.
They're like dogs who lick there nuts and say "because I can".
We in Hawaii still have the Aloha spirit we send leis to New York
for 9/11 and... we sell STIs at $33313.30 O.T.D direct from Japan.
Aloha
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a) The salesman I talked to (Robert) was the biggest jackass I've ever met. Rolled his eyes at me when I asked him to clarify some crazy lingo he was throwing at me. He laughed at me when I said I was expecting to pay ~MSRP.
2) Asked for $10k over MSRP.
d) Told me that the $5k cash deposit he was insisting upon was to verify that I was "a legitimate customer".
When I talked to them over the phone back in January, the sales manager was a jackass as well, telling me that I had to rush down immediately if I hoped to get an STi in the next year or two. Wow.
2) Asked for $10k over MSRP.
d) Told me that the $5k cash deposit he was insisting upon was to verify that I was "a legitimate customer".
When I talked to them over the phone back in January, the sales manager was a jackass as well, telling me that I had to rush down immediately if I hoped to get an STi in the next year or two. Wow.
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Re: Let's start a boycott list for Subaru dealers charging over MSRP!
I remember that I started a thread about a couple of months ago suggesting that we should list dealers who suggest ridiculous markups (ie 1000K or more).
I then got ran out of the room. I was defending myself against people who said that "dealers have their own ways of doing things" and this and that. Dealers have to do this in order to do that. But the overall feeling was that this was a bad idea. Now that the Sti is selling and more people are figuring out that dealers WILL mark up a popular car (whether it be a 31K impreza or a 32K S2000), people are willing to make a big deal out of it.
Glad to see that people are helping other people out in getting those prices down to MSRP and getting rid of unnecessary markups.
By the way, what is up with Stevens Creek dealerships? They decide to markup cars that are supposed to give "bang for the back" by 20k??? (ie both the EVO and the Sti)
Tim
I then got ran out of the room. I was defending myself against people who said that "dealers have their own ways of doing things" and this and that. Dealers have to do this in order to do that. But the overall feeling was that this was a bad idea. Now that the Sti is selling and more people are figuring out that dealers WILL mark up a popular car (whether it be a 31K impreza or a 32K S2000), people are willing to make a big deal out of it.
Glad to see that people are helping other people out in getting those prices down to MSRP and getting rid of unnecessary markups.
By the way, what is up with Stevens Creek dealerships? They decide to markup cars that are supposed to give "bang for the back" by 20k??? (ie both the EVO and the Sti)
Tim
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