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Apr 6, 2003 | 10:01 PM

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RichiQY

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take the above post w/ t a grain of salt.

for more Evo feedback. we gotta go to EvolutionM

Apr 6, 2003 | 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Vishnu
I think once people actually get to drive both cars, they'll immediately determine their personal favorite. You don't even have to push the cars hard to feel how differently they drive. In terms of objective handling, accel, braking, cornering, etc, performance, both cars are stellar. But it's the subjective stuff (ride characteristic, seating position, shift feel, steering feedback, brake pedal feel, body motion, general sense of confidence, etc,.) which is going to divide people into two different camps. Both will appreciate the other. But everyone will have their preference.

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shiv

I think that what shiv is implying is that the Sti and the EVO have drastic differences in terms of driving experience.. So much so that people who like the Sti will have drastically different driving preferences than the guy (oops.. or gal.. gotta be pc here) driving the EVO. This is no different than what drivers experienced with the earleir EVO and Sti models in Japan. They deemed the EVO more like a "race car" with a toggle-switch clutch and sharp handling. The Sti was branded as a "daily driver". But still, the ultimate decision is made by the buyer because he/she is the person buying the car.

Please don't say something like "my friend drove it and thought it was...., therefore the (Sti or EVO) sucks". Unless you are a genetic copy of your friend, you will have different preferences for what good handling and what good accel is. Test drive the EVO if you have the chance. When the Sti comes out, test drive that too. Then choose which car you like! Which ever you choose, they are both VERY GOOD cars.

Tim

Apr 7, 2003 | 12:52 AM

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If there is anyone in this forum who ahs driven the EVO, I was wondering if they experienced a weird resistance in the transmission. Like I said, the shifts were very quick, and sure, but there was a type of resistance between the shifts. It was kind of annoying, and I was wondering if this was just my experience or if this was the way the EVO was built. IT was like the shifts had to be pushed and pulled into place, none of them "fell" into gear. Any thoughts??

Apr 7, 2003 | 01:25 AM

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Maybe it's the harded transmission or multi-cone synchros giving some kind of resistance? Since you have a TT I take it it's not like the rubbery Audi/VW shifter...

Apr 7, 2003 | 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Kenn
Maybe it's the harded transmission or multi-cone synchros giving some kind of resistance? Since you have a TT I take it it's not like the rubbery Audi/VW shifter...

My previous car was an S4. Low end torque and power was great. 253lbs/ft of torque at 1850 RPM! But the shifter was horrible. Just you mentioning that made me cringe. I can forgive body roll and understeer but a crappy shifter, c'mon Audi.

Apr 7, 2003 | 10:04 PM

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I own an evo, and this resistance was probably a brand new tranny.. mine felt stiff for the first few hundreds of miles, it has softened up since.. still feels tight, and doent really fall into gear, or shift itself, but you dont need much effort either.. I haven't experienced the missed shifts that other people have complained about... i also dont slam it into gear, which is what i assume is the problem.. it seems like you need a nice happy medium of effort on the shifts.. not too hard, but not to soft. fits me just right, even under "spirited" acceleration.

Apr 9, 2003 | 03:39 PM

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My current car's an S4 and with a few (relatively cheap) mods you can totally transform it in terms of performance and handling etc.

First off a UUC short-shifter takes care of the crappy shift.

Secondly, a set of MTM springs (with stock shocks) get rid of most of the bodyroll whilst keeping it nice and smooth as a daily driver on Rochester's pot-hole infested roads.

Thirdly, an MTM ECU coupled with a 3" Milltek cat-back exhaust puts out around 320 bhp and 370 lb/ft of torque (compared to the stock S4's 250 bhp and 258 lb/ft) ......the twin turbo configuation all-but eliminates turbo lag.

I've owned many, many cars (i get bored very quickly) including 4 Porsches and my S4 is the one I've owned for the longest period and the one I'm not going to get rid of...........I'm sure the STi will out-handle it, but I'm not sure about straight-line performance...my S4 has SO MUCH torque low down. Hopefully if Prodrive introduce the rumoured 400 bhp mod for the USDM Sti, there's no much that will stay with it (including the Ralliart Evo !!).