speaker suggestions?
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speaker suggestions?
Hey, I'm looking to get a decent speaker setup for my 02 wrx that sounds good and isn't over the top in price... I was recommended to look into infinity door speakers and I was thinking of getting a single subwoofer so I can retain some useful trunk space. Any suggestions to the size/kind of speakers to put in (I dont know what size will fit :S)? also is it necessary to get an external amplifier for the door speakers AS WELL AS the subwoofer?? I'm a newbie when it comes to car audio and don't wanna spend money on something I dont need *cough persistant sales people cough*
btw: I will be replacing the deck as well (havent decided on what kind though..)
thanks
Edit: plz check 2nd page for new question..
btw: I will be replacing the deck as well (havent decided on what kind though..)
thanks
Edit: plz check 2nd page for new question..
Last edited by amarpauld; Nov 13, 2004 at 09:39 PM.
lesson #1: get the biggest speakers you can get for the fronts.
lesson #2: forget rear speakers. unless you carry passengers in the rear seat ALL the time and THEY PAY you to listen to music, you are just wasting money
lesson #3: buy a kick *** subwoofer
lesson #4: buy a kick *** amp to power the sub and the front speakers.
lesson #5: ebay is your friend...
lesson #2: forget rear speakers. unless you carry passengers in the rear seat ALL the time and THEY PAY you to listen to music, you are just wasting money
lesson #3: buy a kick *** subwoofer
lesson #4: buy a kick *** amp to power the sub and the front speakers.
lesson #5: ebay is your friend...
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thanks for the suggestions, i heard about that whole rear speaker thing, but I just dont want them to get scratchy when I turn the music up like they do right now (everything stock)... should I just get some cheap speakers and throw them in the back or will having a new deck magically resolve my concern??
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
lesson #1: get the biggest speakers you can get for the fronts.
lesson #2: forget rear speakers. unless you carry passengers in the rear seat ALL the time and THEY PAY you to listen to music, you are just wasting money
lesson #3: buy a kick *** subwoofer
lesson #4: buy a kick *** amp to power the sub and the front speakers.
lesson #5: ebay is your friend...
lesson #2: forget rear speakers. unless you carry passengers in the rear seat ALL the time and THEY PAY you to listen to music, you are just wasting money
lesson #3: buy a kick *** subwoofer
lesson #4: buy a kick *** amp to power the sub and the front speakers.
lesson #5: ebay is your friend...
Originally Posted by amarpauld
thanks for the suggestions, i heard about that whole rear speaker thing, but I just dont want them to get scratchy when I turn the music up like they do right now (everything stock)... should I just get some cheap speakers and throw them in the back or will having a new deck magically resolve my concern??
if you are carrying passsengers, you really cant hear the radio over your conversations or visa versa. so why bother.
my reasoning is, and i come from a car audio competing background, is that unless REALLY properly done right, rear speakers tend to DRAG the image towards the rear of the vehicle.
even with a subwoofer... yeah i know, i know... subwoofers are "non directional" yada, yada, yada....
for me, i can tell where the "boom" is coming from.
after all, when was the last time you went to a concert or a live musical event and when they started playing, you turn around and faced the rear?
only reason 99.99% of the subwoofers are in the rear of the vehicle is because of space issues. now i have heard 1 or 2 cars in competition that hacked the hell out of their front dash area to install a subwoofer up there. and lemme tell you, it's incredible.
now, in the car audio world, STEREO IS STILL king.
sure, you have DVDs with dolby 5.1. sure there are dvd players for the cars for years now.
problem is that multichannel hasnt made that breakthrough yet, that i would be glad enough to throw thousands of dollars for a system in either of my vehicles.
so until it is ubiqitious in the mobile environment, 2 channels is enough for me...
that is why i recommend the best and biggest speakers you can get up front and powering it with a equally great amp.
I would do Boston Acoustics in the front (L60/65's or NX67's if on a budget and Pro60's if not). I would also look into the NEW Boston Subs. The G2 10 and 12 work in really small boxes and will outperform a JLW3 with no problem at all and do it in a smaller box. There amps are very cool too but pricey. Anyway, the Boston speakers all use Neodymium magnets structures that are way small so they fit way easier. They also sound GREAT. I have the Pro60's and they rock. I also use Eclipse or Nakamichi head units when ever I want a system to sound its best. www.bostonacoustics.com
Good Luck
PDQWRX
Good Luck
PDQWRX
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the problem with the boston acoustics and mb quarts are:
1) no local places carry them
2) the quart premiums are kinda over my budget although they are indeed very
nice
local places (that i know of in burnaby,BC) carry: sony, panasonic, jvc, JL audio, alpine, rockford, kicker, clarion, kenwood, pioneer
and from these choices i kinda liked the JL audio 5 1/4 for up front ($150 CDN) (they told me 6 1/2 wouldnt fit without modifications... extra modification means extra $$), I was initially thinking of putting some cheap alpine type-S 6 1/2 in the back (for $100 CDN) but ldivinag quickly ended that thought lol, and then I am VERY tempted by the JL audio 12W3 sub as it is available for $188 CDN with an 800W kenwood amp for $200 CDN. Since the speakers I have up front arent exactly 'high-end,' am I right in assuming a new stereo will provide enough power for them?
I know that there are many different setups out there that would sound much better.. but for the price, I THINK this is the best I can get... unfortunately price is a limiting factor. This is also why I was looking into the panasonic CQ-C3300 deck (i've attached a picture of it) since it is relatively cheap, stylish, and plays mp3/wma/cd-r/cd-rw... most other decks in this price range ($250 CDN) had the same wattage or less (50W x 4) so I figured that it would be just as good as the equivalent alpine/pioneer decks... feel free to criticize me and tell me otherwise
again, I really appreciate the suggestions and apologize for my lack of knowledge
1) no local places carry them
2) the quart premiums are kinda over my budget although they are indeed very
nice
local places (that i know of in burnaby,BC) carry: sony, panasonic, jvc, JL audio, alpine, rockford, kicker, clarion, kenwood, pioneer
and from these choices i kinda liked the JL audio 5 1/4 for up front ($150 CDN) (they told me 6 1/2 wouldnt fit without modifications... extra modification means extra $$
), I was initially thinking of putting some cheap alpine type-S 6 1/2 in the back (for $100 CDN) but ldivinag quickly ended that thought lol, and then I am VERY tempted by the JL audio 12W3 sub as it is available for $188 CDN with an 800W kenwood amp for $200 CDN. Since the speakers I have up front arent exactly 'high-end,' am I right in assuming a new stereo will provide enough power for them?I know that there are many different setups out there that would sound much better.. but for the price, I THINK this is the best I can get... unfortunately price is a limiting factor. This is also why I was looking into the panasonic CQ-C3300 deck (i've attached a picture of it) since it is relatively cheap, stylish, and plays mp3/wma/cd-r/cd-rw... most other decks in this price range ($250 CDN) had the same wattage or less (50W x 4) so I figured that it would be just as good as the equivalent alpine/pioneer decks... feel free to criticize me and tell me otherwise
again, I really appreciate the suggestions and apologize for my lack of knowledge
jl audio, and alpine carry some nice components.
check ebay for mb quarts.
i've had them on my truck close to 10 years now. and before i got my wrx, now sti, i pounded on them on a daily basis and had ZERO problems.
these were the 218's... kick *** setups...
check ebay for mb quarts.
i've had them on my truck close to 10 years now. and before i got my wrx, now sti, i pounded on them on a daily basis and had ZERO problems.
these were the 218's... kick *** setups...
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Hey man I have A ALPINE 9815 deck. It's awsome, it plays everything you could ever want plus it hooks up to your cell phone which included a phonebook on the DECK. O wait did I mention it produces 60watts max per speaker. In the front I have two Eclipse speakers with built on crossovers( thy scream with an amp plus with the built on cross over you don't have to worry about all the wires), in the back doors I have some cheap pioneer two ways that sound good off the deck. Mounted in a custom box behind the rear seat head rests I have brand new component Infinity kappa 4" speakers that scream. To power the front eclipse and the rear infinity speakers I went with a free, older alpine 4 channel amp that does about 50 watts per speaker RMS. In the trunk I am running a MTX 81000D mono amp that makes about 1750 watts off Power( that was the factory test print out) and along with that are two mtx8000 subs(dual 4 ohm voice coils). Seriously it might be a bit extreme but in the end I have a truly superb, clean system that can set off car alarms when I drive down the road. THe only Problem you need to look at is if you do use a big system that draws alot of power make sure to have enough power to run the system. I had to upgrade to a dual battery system which ran me about 200 bucks.
Trust me dude I have had many, many set ups I have had JL audio 12W6's, infinity Kappa subs, Jl audio 10W0's, inifinity kappa 6.5" speakers components, a really nice pioneer premier deck, two older alpine decks, a brand new 2004 kenwood deck, and nothing compares to the system I have now. I love clean solid music and I lissen to everything from country to gansta rap.
Good luck with your system and remember to do it yourself becasue you can use the money you save for better components to your system.
Trust me dude I have had many, many set ups I have had JL audio 12W6's, infinity Kappa subs, Jl audio 10W0's, inifinity kappa 6.5" speakers components, a really nice pioneer premier deck, two older alpine decks, a brand new 2004 kenwood deck, and nothing compares to the system I have now. I love clean solid music and I lissen to everything from country to gansta rap.
Good luck with your system and remember to do it yourself becasue you can use the money you save for better components to your system.
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I am looking at the polk momos but no one will give me a straight answer to if they will fit in the fronts. Its a 6.5 (mmc650). They are a nice componate speaker for the price.
Originally Posted by Cyrus923
I am looking at the polk momos but no one will give me a straight answer to if they will fit in the fronts. Its a 6.5 (mmc650). They are a nice componate speaker for the price.
https://w109.webminders.com/iaperfor...plications.pdf
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O wait did I mention it produces 60watts max per speaker.
this cracks me up everytime...
i'd give it 10, maybe ever 15-20 GOOD watts... lol.....
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Thanks for that PDF file. It did not lst the Polk Momo MMC650's, but I know they have a debth of something like 2.7, so they should be alright. I guess all I have to do is slice that ring off and be set. I found the Polk Momos for like 79 bucks plus 18 for shipping so it seems like a great componate speaker for that price.