Well, at least apple should've covered their asses on this one and at least reported that directly to users in their manual so they understand what to expect. Especially something as important as battery life and when it will need replacing since you can't replace it yourself.

Soooo, in 2 years, the $600 phone (if) I choose to buy now will be essentially obsolete when I can buy something decent like a blackberry or a treo now for about half the price and still have it last me just as long? Luckily nobody is being forced to buy these.. The dollar you spend doesn't seem to go a long ways here...

 

sure, they maybe should have said it in the manual. but this lawsuit sounds more like he was looking for a reason to sue. if he was so concerned, why didn't he research before he purchased or ask the sales guy about it. he seemed to find the answer online just fine. my blackberry didn't even come with a owner's manual. they're available online but they don't give it to you with the phone. which makes me question if the iphone's manual was included in his phone package... the article says 'box and instructions inside the box' - not a manual. so maybe it IS in the manual, but not in the getting started guides that they put in the box.

i never said the phone would be obsolete, i'm just saying that two years (minium) would be a long time for a battery to last and spending $80 to replace the battery isn't worth a lawsuit. even then, the battery still has 80% capacity, right? apple agrees to replace the battery for free if it goes under 50% capacity w/ in one year.

oh well. i just don't like people suing for obvious stuff. like "mcD's made me fat!" or "the coffee in my coffee cup burned me!" :l

 

i concur every single device that requires a rechargeable battery had some way of replacing them this covers cd/md players, pda, Nintendo ds lite, laptops, and of course cellphones, all had a way to replace them. so i think it is BS that apple is requiring us to send back these iphones which are not cheap to have them replace the battery.

about a few weeks ago i got crap from not reading my manual about how the spare tire won't clear the front brake calipers. however it was stated in the manual so thats my fault. however does Apple believe people would care enough to read on their website about this battery issue? No i don't think so.

sure no one is forcing them to buy it but its the new cool hip thing to have just like the sidekick, or the two-way that motorolla produced a few years ago. its peer pressure thats making them buy it, sure its not the best logic to base ur purchase on. but the majority of the consumers just buys things because it looks cool.

I think the problem with the Iphone is that its more important compared than the ipod.
ipod: what the battery is dead on my ipod? Oh i have to send it in? its okay i can send in my ipod for a few days. i don't need it
Iphone: what the battery is dead on my iphone?! WHAT I HAVE TO SEND IT IN? BUT I NEED MY IPHONE FOR MY CONTACTS/APPOINTMENTS/DOC etc.... HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO MY BUSINESS?!
people can live with out their mp3 player but people sure can't live with out their cell phones, and this is why that guy is upset. for 600 bucks and finding that out yea i would be upset too

 

ok Keyword here is BUSINESS. An iPhone is and will never be a business phone. It's not practical. Seriously, do you really need youtube in everyday business? The only time I use youtube is to watch the **** actresses get into fights and beat each other. Like that one where Lucy Lee gets ***** slapped on a set. LOL Or keep documents in there.

Joe: Oh hey bob I have this important paper in Claris Works my iPhone here that needs your approval.

Bob: WTF is Claris Works you ****en moron?!!? DIE!!!

It's for pleasure. Dude, if you really need a phone and CANNOT be without one, go buy a cheap go phone and stick you sim car in it. (they are only 40 bucks at target) That way you'll still have a phone while your iPhone gets repaired. If you don't like that idea, then go **** yourself you **** sucking piece of ****en ****. You are a ****en moron that deserves to die from a flesh eating bacteria. You should have known that the phone's battery could not be removed in the first place you dick licker. Don't people look at their phone when they buy it? See how it works and ****. Get a ****en blackberry or a Windows Moblie phone like the rest of us you ****en tard.

 

Guys! Ladies!

The iPhone has a SIM card. Just take it out and put it on another phone! yshh! lol

 

"by that time, there will be much newer, better phones to choose from". You imply here that the phone would essentially be obsolete. You don't have to say "obsolete" directly to convey that to me.

The lawsuit itself is ridiculous as a simple written notice with the Iphone would do, but its also on apple's side as well to inform ppl about the battery replacement since it is an unconventional method. When I write analysis that is different from the norm, I write them like I'm expecting a newb to read it. Same idea here. Ppl aren't used to different things even though they "ooh" and "aaah" them sometimes.

Ed, that is probably why i'm going to get a BB... It fits what I'll be doing better and.. that flame paragraph sounds copied and slightly edited to fit the content in the last couple of posts. O_o

edit - Point is, don't give them a reason to sue..

 

jebus too early to read all of taht

 

yep thats right

 

thats why you should've read it yesterday.. So it doesn't give you as big of a headache as compared to reading it this morning....

also, there is a way to remove the simcard, but since this website asks if it voids the warranty, it doesn't seem documented....

http://www.maclife.com/article/how_t...phone_sim_card

 

there will be much better phones also, but it won't be obsolete. would you buy a phone available now two years from now? no. but that doesn't mean that your phone now will be obsolete in two years; you can still use it to make calls. if you want to call that obsolete, than that's your choice, i didn't say it would be.

they did inform the consumers on their website! or he could have asked; he has a phone to call the customer service line (free call!). if you're making a $600 purchase, do some research before buying the phone. he had 30 days to return the phone, no questions asked. june = purchase date, august = lawsuit. he should have known within 30 days about the battery issue, but he decided a lawsuit instead of returning the phone.

he doesn't give a crap about the battery. he just wants to collect money. instead of suing, why not ask the company to include it in future publications? at least that would have been productive for the rest of us.

my point is, apple or any other company should not be held responsible for not stating the obvious. imagine how long the manual would have to be if they had to point out every little thing that may or may not go wrong.

...and stupid people who pursue cases like this should have their licenses taken away.

 

haha nahh It's in no way scripted. it's me with lack of sleep and a hatred towards people who sue. I know it's California but come on man! lol

 

The method is still unconventional. As much as it might seem to be obvious to you and me that special techniques are needed to replace the battery, others might look at the phone, see no battery cover and start complaining about not being able to replace the battery and return the phone. Then they get angry because they find out that they have to pay $80 to replace it if a problem arises. I'm not saying to put every single little detail in the manual. I'm saying to put things in there that people would want to know about that are simple to explain in a place that is so obvious, a blind man could spot it. Things like "unit will have to be sent in for battery replacement and/or repair" or "don't leave unit in an environment over X temperature". You'd be really surprised to see what kind of problems arise with seemingly simple ideas or things that are apparent.

Take for example the 240z. Most ppl don't know this, but they used to ship those with a Throttle lever and a choke lever. A simple lever for throttle. Seems easy in concept right? Don't engage the throttle lever while in gear at a stop or around pedestrians. Well, ppl did at the most inopportune times, injuries occured, lawsuits happened and when my dad got his, they only had the choke lever in there.

When you said "much newer, better phones" it was a pretty broad statement and it all but says obsolete. Better phones could mean faster processor, better screen, better OS, more memory etc etc... So that means obsolete. Now that you clarify that you didn't mean that and that the phone would still usable, I understand that. But it is still misleading. As with the example here, (and my apologies since I am nitpicking to show a point) wording counts.

 

I hate ppl who frivolously sue as well, but its also about prevention, lessening the blow or taking as little time in court as possible if at all.

Also the part of "You are a ****en moron that deserves to die from a flesh eating bacteria" sounded like something i've seen posted somewhere else. hehe

 

from the iphone manual:

 

I Have Seen The Ipod Hack For The Battery