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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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LOL!! yeah don't use mobil 1
it's bad juju..
you remember when i blew my engine?
it was mobil 1

i been running motul 10w-40 it's great.
I heard pennzoil platenium and redline is good too

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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wat i always used mobil1 on my cars never had any problem with it
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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If you like to use mobil 1 I have no comment on that.
i'm just telling you guys my experience.
I would never use mobil 1 ever again.

motul is my preference

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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mobil 1 is fine, actually any motor oil is fine for daily driving. I think Eddie's motor blew because he doesn't like to shift up.

Redline is cool for a race car, but on a street car I dunno about that.

I stay away from motul because of past history. Actually everyone in my office doesn't like motul. If you want performance stuff try redline, neo, royal purple or torco. motul is more of motorcycle stuff than automobiles imo.

Disadvantages

The disadvantages of synthetic motor oils include:

* Initial costs are usually three times greater than petroleum-based oils, though at one time, man-made oils cost ten times more than petroleum[citation needed]. Initial costs are often mitigated by extended change intervals, which individuals may confirm through used oil analysis (UOA).
* The lower friction may make them unsuitable for break-in (i.e. the initial run-in period of the vehicle) where friction is desirable to cause wear. As many vehicles now use synthetic oils as factory fill, this is less of an issue than it once was.
* Potential decomposition problems in certain chemical environments (industrial use dominantly)
* Potential stress cracking of plastic components like POM (polyoxymethylene) in the presence of PAOs (polyalphaolefins).
* Potential on some older pushrod race engines with roller lifters for the roller itself not to spin with camshaft movement, but rather slide while the roller itself remains either stationary or at a lower circumferential speed than that of the camshaft lobe[citation needed]
* In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of synthetic oil over regular oil. In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service - stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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redline torco neo

thats my list from best to ok

torco for teh tranny!!! its teh best for me


redline one every oil change from 10k to now 140k
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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can you go from Synth back to Dino??
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UberMaus
can you go from Synth back to Dino??
nope
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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nope
why?
Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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For daily driving any oil should be fine. In fact i recommend just regular dino oil (cheap ...around $2-3 per qt)
But i'm a bit more paranoid about what I use.
I ran motul before the track day it held up pretty well. I might go get oil analysis when it hits 3k.
I heard redline is very good also.
I think my motor blew because of oil starvation which is common in the EJ20 motor in addition mobil 1 5-30 being much thinner than what it use to be from the change of formula + the 110 leaded fuel in all combination was bad.

After i blew my motor i did alot of reading up on EJ20 motor
I've changed from 5w-30 to 10-30 now i'm using 10-40 to try to get more protection with heavier weight oil.
I might try 15-50 next time. my friends uses redline 15-50 on his R32.



Originally Posted by LifePlaza
mobil 1 is fine, actually any motor oil is fine for daily driving. I think Eddie's motor blew because he doesn't like to shift up.

Redline is cool for a race car, but on a street car I dunno about that.

I stay away from motul because of past history. Actually everyone in my office doesn't like motul. If you want performance stuff try redline, neo, royal purple or torco. motul is more of motorcycle stuff than automobiles imo.

Disadvantages

The disadvantages of synthetic motor oils include:

* Initial costs are usually three times greater than petroleum-based oils, though at one time, man-made oils cost ten times more than petroleum[citation needed]. Initial costs are often mitigated by extended change intervals, which individuals may confirm through used oil analysis (UOA).
* The lower friction may make them unsuitable for break-in (i.e. the initial run-in period of the vehicle) where friction is desirable to cause wear. As many vehicles now use synthetic oils as factory fill, this is less of an issue than it once was.
* Potential decomposition problems in certain chemical environments (industrial use dominantly)
* Potential stress cracking of plastic components like POM (polyoxymethylene) in the presence of PAOs (polyalphaolefins).
* Potential on some older pushrod race engines with roller lifters for the roller itself not to spin with camshaft movement, but rather slide while the roller itself remains either stationary or at a lower circumferential speed than that of the camshaft lobe[citation needed]
* In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of synthetic oil over regular oil. In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service - stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by c279a
nope
WRONG!! you can change back to dino oil at any time.
In fact it's high recommend if you notice engine seals are not seated properly to change back to dino oil immediately to prevent further engine oil leaks from the seals.
Old Dec 20, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kenji815
WRONG!! you can change back to dino oil at any time.
In fact it's high recommend if you notice engine seals are not seated properly to change back to dino oil immediately to prevent further engine oil leaks from the seals.
my car came with synthetic and that's what's recommend in my owner
s manual. I have no problems with my car with using that oil and no oil leaks anywhere.
Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by c279a
my car came with synthetic and that's what's recommend in my owner
s manual. I have no problems with my car with using that oil and no oil leaks anywhere.

recommend is the key work here
Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kenji815
LOL!! yeah don't use mobil 1
it's bad juju..
you remember when i blew my engine?
it was mobil 1

i been running motul 10w-40 it's great.
I heard pennzoil platenium and redline is good too
I used to use mobile 1. I didn't have a problem with that.
Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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I remember i use to use mobil 1 on my old beater.
it always leak oil, but that's an really old car..

what do you use now kevin?



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