Central Valley Forum Request
09-29-2007, 10:31 AM
#21
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SPT,
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California
10-01-2007, 07:55 AM
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SPT,
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California
I have read up lately on how i-club is cracking down on keeping posts 'thread specific.' I also realize the Fact that Nasioc has the advantage of wide-spread forum participation which leads to its large membership and thread participation. However, (and I'm sure this has been debated countless times before) it also seems that their larger membership isn't necesarily better. One thing I love about i-club is how it allows for organization of meetings by area. I have NEVER once heard anyone say "Hey let's go to that Nasioc meet in Livermore, Sac, etc," and instead have always heard Norcal meets linked to i-club.
The ability of i-club to create opportunities for organized meets IN PERSON I believe is it's greatest attribute. Connecting people on the interent is one thing, but allowing them to interact in person via contacts made on forums is another. This is why I think it is so vital to have a central valley area forum. We can still post on tech and random discussion threads whether or not we have our own forum, yet allowing our own regional area forum would give us a start to having some 'i-club suby cohesion' in our growing area.
I think I'll trademark that phrase
Sincerely,
-Brian
Oakdale, California
Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for creating regional sections so people that live in the same area can communicate. Not to mention having the ability to setup meets and organize events. We just have to remember that I-Club is a National site, which means a main goal of general site interaction should be going on first and then having spill over going on within a specific region. Having general site participation proves to have more benefit because it not only reduces the amount of repetitive questions and subjects, but it helps organize information so more people can find it easier.
10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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thank u!!i mean...sacramento is roughly 2 hours from my house, when the east bay is only and hour and a half....so im most likely gunna post in the bay area forums than the sac forum, but the bay area guys tell me to leave...and if i post in the sac forums, they tell me to leave, cause i am not in the "sac" area!!
so we need to either change the name of the sac forums to central california, or get a section of our own!
10-02-2007, 12:52 AM
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In no way am I trying to choose sides, but I am leaning towards attaining cv forums. I agree w/ both SPT and Brian, as I see see both sides valid---
Ok so we could establish the cv forums and everything would be chummy, but at the same time we run the risk of further development of separation, and suffer further site usage in the general overall scheme of things (in terms of participation goes). On the flip side, we could just not to create one, while we continue doing what we do, using bay/sac/etc. regional threads, but we'd still be lacking in our own communities etc. as we wouldn't have our own home to share ideas and thoughts. In all honesty, I think the best bet is to create a localized, or more so, a centralized web site focusing on just us, as a central group of people. However, doing so would be reflective on a new project of issues.
As far as reinforcing the site goes, I do agree, we should be doing that, and @ the same time not taking away from group participation, and other information ppl can read on their own terms, thereas, not limiting, nor partaking in anything they should or can't. As a means to not hide anything to prevent repetitive information, I believe it's sort of at it's own discretion on the OP. On a more personal level, I go to not just 1 section of the regional forums, but many. A lot of the times, I'll visit whatever happens to catch my eye.
There are a lot of things that could "eventually" happen to the site, but either we can find a way to maintain this ongoing endeavor of site participation, usage, sharing of info. etc., or we could find a way to accept that perhaps, creating a CV forum won't affect it to the level we're thinking it might be. I can also understand the fact that by having others view this, there's always risks of having more upheaval. But I suppose, that's not for me to decide. I'm just here to give my thoughts on a cv section, the good and the bad.
Quite frankly, I know I'll live through this, but atleast I thought maybe I can, atleast, try to give my .2 on the matter. I probably won't be posting in here anymore, but I'll still be watching idly, standing by. XD
Ok so we could establish the cv forums and everything would be chummy, but at the same time we run the risk of further development of separation, and suffer further site usage in the general overall scheme of things (in terms of participation goes). On the flip side, we could just not to create one, while we continue doing what we do, using bay/sac/etc. regional threads, but we'd still be lacking in our own communities etc. as we wouldn't have our own home to share ideas and thoughts. In all honesty, I think the best bet is to create a localized, or more so, a centralized web site focusing on just us, as a central group of people. However, doing so would be reflective on a new project of issues.
As far as reinforcing the site goes, I do agree, we should be doing that, and @ the same time not taking away from group participation, and other information ppl can read on their own terms, thereas, not limiting, nor partaking in anything they should or can't. As a means to not hide anything to prevent repetitive information, I believe it's sort of at it's own discretion on the OP. On a more personal level, I go to not just 1 section of the regional forums, but many. A lot of the times, I'll visit whatever happens to catch my eye.
There are a lot of things that could "eventually" happen to the site, but either we can find a way to maintain this ongoing endeavor of site participation, usage, sharing of info. etc., or we could find a way to accept that perhaps, creating a CV forum won't affect it to the level we're thinking it might be. I can also understand the fact that by having others view this, there's always risks of having more upheaval. But I suppose, that's not for me to decide. I'm just here to give my thoughts on a cv section, the good and the bad.
Quite frankly, I know I'll live through this, but atleast I thought maybe I can, atleast, try to give my .2 on the matter. I probably won't be posting in here anymore, but I'll still be watching idly, standing by. XD
10-02-2007, 07:04 AM
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We do need to do something because we do not have a general norcal regional. It should be set up as norcal with BA and SAC being subcategories leaving anyone left out to participate in norcal general region. So there does need to be something for these guys. Its just important to only use it for regional discussions and not only stick to the regionals for all your discussions
10-02-2007, 08:15 AM
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We do need to do something because we do not have a general norcal regional. It should be set up as norcal with BA and SAC being subcategories leaving anyone left out to participate in norcal general region. So there does need to be something for these guys. Its just important to only use it for regional discussions and not only stick to the regionals for all your discussions
It's a matter of pride to them - having the BAIC on top of the regional forums, since that's where i-club was founded. If they suddenly become a sub-forum under Norcal, you'll have a riot on your hands.
My $.02
10-02-2007, 08:56 AM
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In the words of Perter on Family Guy:
"WHoa..Whoa....Whoa.....Whoa..........Whoa"
Egan, I am definitely NOT asking to create an entire Norcal region. BAIC stays as it is as the top dog of course. I love the BAIC forum as that is what initially heightened my i-club interest in the first place. Creating one giant NorCal glob would be pointless. Rather I am simply attempting to create a place where us Central Valley Folk can organize regional events, installs, etc.
I agree with SPT and lazer drops that your concern over increased regional 'cliquey-ness' is a sound issue. However, I think the number of people attracted to i-club by a created central valley forum would more than make up for this by increasing membership numbers. Gaining new members is never a bad thing; and new members would be impressioned upon immediately that posts need to be forum specific.
Bump for a Central Valley Forum, and a second Bump for continuing the push for forum specific posts.
-Brian
Now in Modesto, CA Just Moved! : )