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Originally Posted by BLegacy
It's not illegal to have a cutout before the catalytic converters while on the public roadway as long as it's closed.
For the cutout to be useful it would have to be between the engine and the catalytic converter right?
Well in CA that is considered a closed system and any modification to it or one of its parts is considered a "modified emissions device".
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
No it's not... according to Section 27150, it requires that every motor vehicle subject to registration be equipped with an adequate muffler.
Then according to Section 27151, it prohibits modified exhaust of the exhaust system to amplify or increase the noise emitted by the vehicle, making the vehicle not in compliance with section 27150 or exceeding the noise limits estabilished in sections 27201-27206VC. Section 27151 VC does no prohibit all modifications to an exhaust system. It also does not prohibit any modifications that increase the noise level of the exhaust system over that of the original, factory-installed exhaust system. It ONLY prohibits modifications that result in a noise level higher then those specified in Sections 27201-27206 VC.
Basically it's up to the officer to decide whether it's to loud or not, then you get to prove him wrong. I brought my camaro to a ref with the cut out still installed on the car and it passed with flying colors, even the visual. There is no LAW saying you can't modify your exhaust, the only law states that it just can't be louder then what the VC states...
I'm pretty sure what you would do then is go to court and fight the ticket, then the entire ticket would be thrown out as if it never happened. So it would just take a day of your time
Then according to Section 27151, it prohibits modified exhaust of the exhaust system to amplify or increase the noise emitted by the vehicle, making the vehicle not in compliance with section 27150 or exceeding the noise limits estabilished in sections 27201-27206VC. Section 27151 VC does no prohibit all modifications to an exhaust system. It also does not prohibit any modifications that increase the noise level of the exhaust system over that of the original, factory-installed exhaust system. It ONLY prohibits modifications that result in a noise level higher then those specified in Sections 27201-27206 VC.
Basically it's up to the officer to decide whether it's to loud or not, then you get to prove him wrong. I brought my camaro to a ref with the cut out still installed on the car and it passed with flying colors, even the visual. There is no LAW saying you can't modify your exhaust, the only law states that it just can't be louder then what the VC states...
I'm pretty sure what you would do then is go to court and fight the ticket, then the entire ticket would be thrown out as if it never happened. So it would just take a day of your time
Adequate Muffler Required
27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
But if the cutout is closed, then the emissions system is still in full working operation, therefore persmissable. Much like how a nitrous system that is unarmed and disconnected, can be legally legally installed in a car. That's how I understood it from the domestic V8 gear heads, but then, they don't really get the same attention from the police as the Japanese import crowd.
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Originally Posted by BLegacy
But if the cutout is closed, then the emissions system is still in full working operation, therefore persmissable. Much like how a nitrous system that is unarmed and disconnected, can be legally legally installed in a car. That's how I understood it from the domestic V8 gear heads, but then, they don't really get the same attention from the police as the Japanese import crowd.
Also, see my previous post quoting the vehicle cods that specifically makes cutouts illegal...
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
My cut out is actually after the cats... but then again my cats are gutted... LOL
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DZ is right about me being right. 
Exhaust cut out is illegal even if closed.
I used to read the vehicle code every year to check for updates. I used to maintain a list of every VC my car was in violation of.
Exhaust cut out is illegal even if closed.
I used to read the vehicle code every year to check for updates. I used to maintain a list of every VC my car was in violation of.
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Originally Posted by R4ND0M_AX3
DZ is right about me being right.
Exhaust cut out is illegal even if closed.
I used to read the vehicle code every year to check for updates. I used to maintain a list of every VC my car was in violation of.
Exhaust cut out is illegal even if closed.
I used to read the vehicle code every year to check for updates. I used to maintain a list of every VC my car was in violation of.
I guess I may be wrong about DZ not being right about you being right. LOL
BTW, you can order a copy of the annually revised CVCs from the DMV for a nominal fee. True, you can get it off the innanet, but this way, you don't have that burning sensation on your chest when you fall asleep from reading it.
BTW, you can order a copy of the annually revised CVCs from the DMV for a nominal fee. True, you can get it off the innanet, but this way, you don't have that burning sensation on your chest when you fall asleep from reading it.
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
It's not... read the vehicle codes, if it passes the sound law it's NOT illegal.
no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
don't you understand?
My Uncle works for the smog section of BAR, and it's not illegal to cut off your muffler aslong as it's not louder then the 85db or whatever it is(In most cases with a cutout they are to loud anyways).
If cutouts are illegal, then how did I bring my car to a smog ref with it on, and he didn't even mention it to me...?
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the guy had it on a lift, where I could see the cut out standing 30+ feet away... I doubt he overlooked it. I don't think a smog ref would "overlook it" if it was SOO illegal. I didn't know the guy doing it, nor did I talk to him. Why would he just magically make me pass, with something so blatently illegal?
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Originally Posted by GT35 STI
the guy had it on a lift, where I could see the cut out standing 30+ feet away... I doubt he overlooked it. I don't think a smog ref would "overlook it" if it was SOO illegal. I didn't know the guy doing it, nor did I talk to him. Why would he just magically make me pass, with something so blatently illegal?
Were you in for a noise violation or a modified emissions ticket inspection?
Perhaps he saw you and was afraid your wannabe Eminem *** had a wannabe G-Unit that would posse up and bring the noise if he messed with you?
Maybe your uncle that works for the smog section of the BAR did something illegal and pulled some strings for you?
The fact that you got lucky and did not get busted does not make the part legal...
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Originally Posted by dz
Why didn't the CHP officer pull me over for speeding this morning when I entered the freeway at well over 80mph? I bet he could have seen me speeding from 30+ feet away? Why would he overlook it if speeding is illegal?
Were you in for a noise violation or a modified emissions ticket inspection?
Perhaps he saw you and was afraid your wannabe Eminem *** had a wannabe G-Unit that would posse up and bring the noise if he messed with you?
Maybe your uncle that works for the smog section of the BAR did something illegal and pulled some strings for you?
The fact that you got lucky and did not get busted does not make the part legal...
Were you in for a noise violation or a modified emissions ticket inspection?
Perhaps he saw you and was afraid your wannabe Eminem *** had a wannabe G-Unit that would posse up and bring the noise if he messed with you?
Maybe your uncle that works for the smog section of the BAR did something illegal and pulled some strings for you?
The fact that you got lucky and did not get busted does not make the part legal...
No, I just bought the car and had to have it inspected from the DMV. I went to a random smog shop, and my uncle had no idea of the purchase, so there was no string pulling...
I can't blame the guy for being intimidated by me though if that was the case, because I truely am hardcore
Edit: Not to mention. I have MANY america car friends with cut outs, who have ALL gotten their car smogged at different shops, with no string pulling and passed, with flying colors.... Guess they all got over looked too...
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So are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?
Lets go down to the CHP office with your car and ask an officer to come out and look at it to verify that the cut out is legal. If they say it is legal I will give you $100.00 cash, if not you admit you are wrong here on the forums. You don't have to pay me anything if the officer says the cut out is illegal, but if it is I get to file a citizens arrest ticket and have you written up for the violation.
Are you in?
Lets go down to the CHP office with your car and ask an officer to come out and look at it to verify that the cut out is legal. If they say it is legal I will give you $100.00 cash, if not you admit you are wrong here on the forums. You don't have to pay me anything if the officer says the cut out is illegal, but if it is I get to file a citizens arrest ticket and have you written up for the violation.
Are you in?