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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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Ecutek.

No question. No piggyback is undetectable, especially the hacked-up wires when it's removed. Plus, they're intermendiate solutions with no failsafes if something else goes wrong with the car, becuase they're masking sensor values to the ECU to increase performance. Utecs can destroy injectors, becuase they don't fire them correctly, etc.

A reflash uses stock management and maps to allow the car to make reliable power with all of the factory safeguards in place......

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Another vote for Ecutek.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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You could have a "stock" map and a performance map, yeah.

I'm not commenting on dealerships, but if all the original hardware is in place, there's no reason to look further.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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i vote fa da ecutek also.

and if yous is goin to mess wiv your auto yous ave to expect to lose your warranty. seriously, if yous modify da auto and thun try to run a scam on da deala yous bone fings up fa those of us dat ave stock autos (just ask my wife) whun we need a warranty ta mend da autos.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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BTW. If you're modding the car, sack up and pay to fix something if you break it. You have to pay to play, and each fraudulent warranty claim makes it that much harder to get legitimate claims taken care of.


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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron@S-Squared
BTW. If you're modding the car, sack up and pay to fix something if you break it. You have to pay to play, and each fraudulent warranty claim makes it that much harder to get legitimate claims taken care of.


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i concur.

as for dealer detection... i've had my car in to a dealership several times for non-engine related warranty items (seat, seat recall, CC recall, blown strut) and have never been hassled for mods.

i don't think you can really have a "stock map" and a "performance map" with ecutek. you can have a low boost and a high boost map, but the timing and fuel changes remain the same. it's more for "my map" and "the wife's map"
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RussB
i don't think you can really have a "stock map" and a "performance map" with ecutek. you can have a low boost and a high boost map, but the timing and fuel changes remain the same. it's more for "my map" and "the wife's map"
Correct. I should have clarified.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron@S-Squared
Correct. I should have clarified.
it's all good in da hood.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RussB
it's all good in da hood.
That's something Ali G would say.

What about cobb? I know they have just "basic" performance maps. Have you looked into that?

Just giving you more options.
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron@S-Squared
You could have a "stock" map and a performance map, yeah.

I'm not commenting on dealerships, but if all the original hardware is in place, there's no reason to look further.

to be accurate, the two maps that are being switched are the boost maps. There is one map for everything else, but by switching the levels of boost within the map, it will affect the different fuel and timing maps to adjust accordingly

as far as we know and have been told by ECUtek, if a dealer plugs into your ECU, they would not know that the maps have been changed, only that its been reflashed at some porint, but they cannot tell by who or with what.

and thats only if they are looking for it. If they just plug into your OBDII port to run tests, they could not tell
Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by soggynoodles
That's something Ali G would say.

What about cobb? I know they have just "basic" performance maps. Have you looked into that?

Just giving you more options.
I'd go with ECUtek over COBB too.

COBB maps are base maps that they've done a lot of testing with, but it's just an off the shelf setup and the send it to you. You plug it in and away you go, no testing, no monitoring, nothing.

ECUtek reflashes are done by tuners, on a dyno. I like this better because the tuner can check all the various components of your car while he/she is modifying the ECU to best fit YOUR car.
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Originally Posted by Scott@S-Squared
to be accurate, the two maps that are being switched are the boost maps. There is one map for everything else, but by switching the levels of boost within the map, it will affect the different fuel and timing maps to adjust accordingly

as far as we know and have been told by ECUtek, if a dealer plugs into your ECU, they would not know that the maps have been changed, only that its been reflashed at some porint, but they cannot tell by who or with what.

and thats only if they are looking for it. If they just plug into your OBDII port to run tests, they could not tell
couldn't they tell if the EGT probe and rear O2 sensor have been deactivated or have electronic fixes? on delta dash they read a set level while logging.

edit: i'm off on a tangent here. there's no reason to do any of those things with the stock turbo and exhaust in place.

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also, FYI.. if you try to mess with a UTEC yourself, there is a good chance you will blow up your motor. The UTEC will report false signals to the ECU even if something is going horribly wrong with your motor, hence all the safeguards built into the stock ECU will be bypassed, and stuff will done blow up.

UTEC allows the user to upload their own maps that they create or even download off the intarweb, which leads to majority of people blowing up cars

ECUtek reflashes will retain all the safety features, so say something fails, like a fuel pump, the stock management will be able to cope with the problem, as where the UTEC will keep reporting to the ECU that there is no shortage of fuel and keep chugging along



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