Type faster!

 

Uh, poor and ignorant drug users? People who are already criminals and/or have warrants out? People who do not wish to fulfill the agrement of the license (no government assistance of any kind, which includes their only source of income and/or health care)?

 

Heh, I was already gone. You were seeing my ghost from the last post. 15 minute server refresh FTW.

 

So poor people are going to pay more money for drugs?

Criminals with warrants are a small percentage of the population. Again I would say that the reduced demand will drive "blackmarket drug" prices up and make the illegal market dry up.

Of course I look at this as an opportunity. Using my drug license I can buy all of the drugs I want, re-sell them to the poor and criminal element for a small profit, and still drive out the drug dealers! :banana:

 

I'm not particularly for or against legal drugs, I'm just arguing that if you're going to legalize them, to solve the drug crime problem, you can't leave ways for people to land themselves in jail anyway. Des the fact that drgs are illegal now stop people from making retarded decisions about how and where and when to do them now? Why would having a legal outlet affect that?

(I'm just pissed my cartel is gonna get shutdown before I clear the $3billion gross mark. )

 

Financial profit is one of the main benefits of incarceration. Return is rewarding with corporate contracts, inflated salaries for prison officials, and access to cheap prison labor. This misuse of cheap inmate labor, like most class/race-based abuses, is driven by corporate demands and backed by key policy makers. Competition on a global scale drives the need for high productivity rates and low overhead costs. These profit margins can only be achieved by reducing labor expenditures. The globalization process concentrates on sweatshop labor, workfare labor, and prison labor to ensure a large profit. While all of these types of labor have a lot in common, prison labor is still the cheapest. Therefore, corporate executives have concentrated on inmate labor, and have added inmates to the list of disposable human commodities. With incarceration, being looked at a business there has been an increase in privately owned detention facilities and prisons. Corrections Corporations of America (CCA) and Wackenhut are two of the major companies who receive contracts to provide services or operate prisons. Wackenhut itself boasts profits of over $600 million a year. Private prison owners are not committed to anything except expanding their profit margin. The quality of life of inmates is set aside, and efficiency is targeted. In addition, there is no intention on rehabilitating inmates because recidivism in crime benefits these companies.

 

Oh, so it's the evil corporations' fault that a bunch of people committed crimes, got arrested, and then incarcerated? The greed of corporate america is not to blame for the idiocy of people who get arrestd over drugs, wehter for possession, use or dealing.

 

When you go to an educational facility, and flip through a catalog of desks, pencils, chairs and blackboards made by the inmate population for one of the main institutions that use them for products, is that something that the "prison corporation" would want to give up? People do make get incarcerated because of their own stupidity, but the steep slope to get out of the prision industrial complex makes it nearly impossible to get out and stay out once you are part of the inmate workforce.

 

Speaking of slaves.. I mean prisoners, my previous employer had some work at a prison. The guards didn't do crap. They were like, "why are you doing that? get some of the slaves to do it"

 

This is true. My cousin worked at San Quentin for four years as a guard...and his boots got a spit shine everyday by a slave.

 

exactly.. the government produces the drugs and sells them for a fraction of the street value..

no more drug dealers.. except for the legal ones

 

Uhhh on the subject of prison labor... do you really think they make more money off the prison labor than it costs to keep them there?? I'm sure they make a lot of licnese plates but come on... How much do you think it costs to feed, clothe, give medical care and pay for guards? Not to mention cable, schooling and all the other extras they get.

 

Uhhh...yes they do make more money off of prision labor because prision labor isn't just about "making licence plates." They produce and manufacture a diverse amount of products that you use on a daily basis. In most prisions in the U.S. they don't receive schooling, new clothes, cable, or any other "extras."As the U.S. prison population has increased, the purpose of incarceration has revolved around punishment as opposed to reform. Educational opportunities have been dramatically reduced, and the exploitation of prison labor has increased. This use of labor is not seen as positive development, as most people consider low-paid wage labor to be one of the most immoral characteristics of current prison conditions. Inside, there are only small amounts of everyday jobs that develop useful skills that can be linked to long-term employment opportunities. With the number of incarcerated Americans at 2.1 million and growing, it is to be expected that we know either someone locked up, are involved in some aspect of our current criminal justice system, or work in a jail or prison. There has been a priority to build prisons rather than build schools, and cries for education instead of incarceration have been disregarded by our nation’s current political agenda.
In 1970, there were approximately 210,000 people incarcerated in the United States, and today there is over ten times the amount at about 2.1 million. In terms of paying for guards salaries the ratio of guards to prisionors more than makes up for their pay.

 

Where have you been?? Last i heard they were paying for prisoners to get sex change operations and giving death row inmates million dollar heart transplants... Obviously you are out of touch with reality.

 

Heard from where? What about the fact that in an effort to reduce the maintenance costs associated with housing, feeding and healthcare issues with their prison population, many local governments are now billing inmates for their stay. Billing rates vary from $8 to $55 per day depending on locale. There are significant pros and cons on this issue. Officials are attempting to collect money from a portion of the population that is normally destitute, thereby aggravating their situation, and potentially causing more crime. When the officials are unable to collect, they will seize the inmate’s assets or send the inmate back to jail compounding the situation. Often, the costs to collect the fees exceed the actual fees themselves. It is true that the government and tax payers spend a lot of money on prisoners-but that is not the point. The point is they spend a lot more on the "war on drugs" in contrast the amount they spend on schools and your college. If you get convicted of a drug felony, and try to "clean yourself up" by applying for federal aid to go to school get an education and turn your life around-no chance. Do you know why? The Free Application for Federal Aid (FAFSA) form. One of the questions asks specifically if you have ever had any drug convictions that might prohibit you from receiving educational aid. There are no questions related to fraud, rape, murder, child molestation, extortion, conspiracy etc.
Have you ever "heard" of Angola prison? If not, rent the video documentary "the farm." The documentary about Angola prison, suitably named ‘The Farm,’ shows the result of a plantations transformation after the civil rights movement, into another massive employment agency for slave labor. The prison itself is a former slave plantation and the name itself is the town in Africa where the slaves that worked the plantation came from. Many of the prisoners had ancestors who worked the plantation, who now themselves work the farm in a form of institutionalized slavery. The farm covers 18,000 acres that house 5,000 inmates and employs 1,800 workers to take care of them. Most of the inmates are in for long sentences without the chance of parole, and it is estimated that 85% of them will die there. African-American inmates make up 77% of the prison population, and those not on death row work the field for 4 cents and hour, and the best jobs pay 20 cents an hour.
But hey, this might help you out a little bit-if you smoke your trees and stay at home.
In our close-minded society, we consider recreational drug use as a diabolical plan from Satan and yet the consumption of alcohol is far more pervasive and destructive. We are a society that grew up with alcohol and bars, so we don’t think about the ravages of alcohol, except when Mothers Against Drunk Drivers (MADD) launch intensive campaigns to alert the public to the dangers. Alcohol kills more people than all drugs combined and yet it’s perfectly legal. In many ways, because of careless doctors and pharmacists, there are more deaths attributed to adverse reactions to prescription drugs than deaths caused by recreational drugs. The chart below shows the deaths caused by various factors in the United States in the year 2000.
Cause of Death
Number of Deaths
Tobacco
435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Activity
400,000
Alcohol
100,000
Microbial Agents
75,000
Toxic Agents
55,000
Motor Vehicle Accidents
40,000
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs
32,000 – 106,000
Suicide
30,662
Incidents Involving Firearms
29,000
Homicide
20,308
Sexual Behavior
20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect
17,000
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs
7,600
Marijuana
0