And what makes you qualified when you don't even understand the basics of the inner workings of the ECU?


Please see my above post on the topic of the knock signal fiels as reported by DD.
And yes, if I had tuned the car, it would have not experienced this ridiculous amount of knock unless there was a mechanical issue after the tune. In which case, if it had been brought to my attention, I would have done something about it and not simply dismissed it.

Again, see my post above about the knock signal field in DD. And yes, you can hear knock even with a catless turboback if you know what to listen for and listen carefully with the windows rolled up and stereo turned off. BTW, what past experience with Subaru ECUs makes you qualified to say that the abrupt dip in timing is there by design? Maybe Nate can comment on this... was that by design, or do you agree that it is evidence of knock?

And yet again, you misread my post. I never said Nate disables anything. Atleast partially altering the learning behaviour of the ECU, on the other hand, is necessary for a good tune on a car with these modifications. So yes, I'm almost positive that Nate, like any other tuner, modifies the learning parameters atleast to some degree. You can assert whatever you like, but you have no knowledge or reasoning to back it up. It is very obvious to anyone who knows even the basics of how to read a DD log, that this ECU is responding to a lot of knock.

I didn't say either of these things... not even closely. I guess I'm talking over your head on this. Re-read what I wrote, and if you still don't understand, I'll try to explain it more clearly.

Of course you quite obviously changed the parameters, which makes your own argument completely asinine. As I've said, I never change the parameters from run to run and I can easily back that up if you really doubt that. BTW, a road dyno measures the car's actual ability to accelerate on the street, not sitting on a platform on some rollers with simulated load being applied to the wheels, so the road dyno is actually the definitive way to compare a car's accelerative power when performed propperly. I'm not suggesting I can tune this car to make 215whp on nate's dyno. Rather as I stated clearly, similar cars that I've tuned with similar mods make 210-215whp on my road dyno on the same road, with the same parameters under similar conditions. Again, please stop twisting what I clearly say into your own words.


I never attacked anyone's work. I actually gave Nate the benefit of the doubt and suggested that its much more likely that there is a mechanical issue with the car rather than a tuning issue. The fact that Nate chose to ignor the issue at hand is not my fault and I will not be attacked for it.