Forester XT or STI
11-02-2011, 11:25 AM
#21
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Haha i think my vote is going to be as well.
Question for you guys. I think i know the answer but i thought id ask.
I want to put the STI Intercooler, catless uppipe, intake manifold, VF39, and a walbro fuel pump on it. What do you think CA emission SMOG people would think about this? I mean they are technically OEM parts so is it illegal? I assume the uppipe will be illegal because although its OEM it is eliminating the cat on the Forester. But the intercooler and intake manifold i would thing would be SMOG legal and legal to the cops. What do you guys think?
Question for you guys. I think i know the answer but i thought id ask.
I want to put the STI Intercooler, catless uppipe, intake manifold, VF39, and a walbro fuel pump on it. What do you think CA emission SMOG people would think about this? I mean they are technically OEM parts so is it illegal? I assume the uppipe will be illegal because although its OEM it is eliminating the cat on the Forester. But the intercooler and intake manifold i would thing would be SMOG legal and legal to the cops. What do you guys think?
The car as a whole is certified to be compliant. Aftermarket parts (even if mfg by the same company that made the car) must be certified via an exemption that states the emissions aren't negatively affected by the installation of such a part.
Now, that doesn't mean you won't be able to fool the smog tech into passing you visually.
11-02-2011, 12:17 PM
#22
I looked at pre-'09 style Foresters and really liked them. I previously owned an 04 STi, then picked up a G35 sedan, only to realize that my love was still with Subaru. I got an amazing deal on a Satin white '09 FXT and the space in it is incredible. The stance is perfect as well. Although it's not even close to an STi, there are still ways to up the power of course. This time around, I chose functionality over anything else. Good luck with your choice.
11-02-2011, 12:18 PM
#23
I can come down there in one of my other cars and show you a thing or two as well, trust me
That's not the point though, this isn't a pissing contest: the point is, with all sti bolt ons, 20g, and e85 this thing is pretty darn quick. Its really easy to make a forester quick, in fact the 04's even have the same block and wiring as the STi, and you could literally drop in the vf turbo, tmic, and plug in the STi ecu and have an STi (minus the 6 speed and brakes).
Mod for mod they are pretty similar once you go past stock turbos. Heck, even their curb weight is almost identical.
That's not the point though, this isn't a pissing contest: the point is, with all sti bolt ons, 20g, and e85 this thing is pretty darn quick. Its really easy to make a forester quick, in fact the 04's even have the same block and wiring as the STi, and you could literally drop in the vf turbo, tmic, and plug in the STi ecu and have an STi (minus the 6 speed and brakes).
Mod for mod they are pretty similar once you go past stock turbos. Heck, even their curb weight is almost identical.
my vote is get a FORESTER...
11-02-2011, 07:37 PM
#26
Interesting thread.
I have exactly one of the cars you're considering:
2008 Forester XT Sport 5mt in World Rally Blue. Pictures of it are in the "Subaru Gallery" thread.
It has all the STi bolt ons and a few choice power mods.
Haven't run into any STi's that are quicker yet. Straight line or turns
And the practicality of it is a no-brainer. I've transported everything from car bumpers to motorcycle body panels in it with room to spare.
I have exactly one of the cars you're considering:
2008 Forester XT Sport 5mt in World Rally Blue. Pictures of it are in the "Subaru Gallery" thread.
It has all the STi bolt ons and a few choice power mods.
Haven't run into any STi's that are quicker yet. Straight line or turns
And the practicality of it is a no-brainer. I've transported everything from car bumpers to motorcycle body panels in it with room to spare.
If you are ever in the Folsom/Sacramento area, let me know id love to check it out!
For the TMIC I was thinking going aftermarket. To most people they see big red letters on an intercooler and they automatically think aftermarket. If I get an aftermarket it wont say anything so I think it will look more stock and it will be more efficient.
I am not worried about the VF39 because it will still smog as it comes on the STI, it looks like a TD04, and it will be covered up by the stock heat shield so you wont be able to see it anyway.
For the up-pipe, I was thinking of having a stock up-pipe cutted and ported/polished so it still looks stock but works just like a catless pipe. Only worry would be if it would still pass smog, but it would pass visual.
That thing is a beast. HATE the paint job they did on that one but man is that cool. WAY to out of my price range. About to buy a house so my budget is light haha.
OEM or not if it didn't come with the car from the factory and is not a "replacement part" or does not have a CARB EO# it's not legal for emmissions related items.
The car as a whole is certified to be compliant. Aftermarket parts (even if mfg by the same company that made the car) must be certified via an exemption that states the emissions aren't negatively affected by the installation of such a part.
Now, that doesn't mean you won't be able to fool the smog tech into passing you visually.
The car as a whole is certified to be compliant. Aftermarket parts (even if mfg by the same company that made the car) must be certified via an exemption that states the emissions aren't negatively affected by the installation of such a part.
Now, that doesn't mean you won't be able to fool the smog tech into passing you visually.
I looked at pre-'09 style Foresters and really liked them. I previously owned an 04 STi, then picked up a G35 sedan, only to realize that my love was still with Subaru. I got an amazing deal on a Satin white '09 FXT and the space in it is incredible. The stance is perfect as well. Although it's not even close to an STi, there are still ways to up the power of course. This time around, I chose functionality over anything else. Good luck with your choice.
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11-02-2011, 07:59 PM
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its all for fun =) Lets do it. Im very interested in your forester mods. Is it in your garage? Where you from? i'm located in san jose. Friendly competition nothing more than that... plus an opportunity to hang out and talk cars w/ another enthusiast.
I can come down there in one of my other cars and show you a thing or two as well, trust me
That's not the point though, this isn't a pissing contest: the point is, with all sti bolt ons, 20g, and e85 this thing is pretty darn quick. Its really easy to make a forester quick, in fact the 04's even have the same block and wiring as the STi, and you could literally drop in the vf turbo, tmic, and plug in the STi ecu and have an STi (minus the 6 speed and brakes).
Mod for mod they are pretty similar once you go past stock turbos. Heck, even their curb weight is almost identical.
That's not the point though, this isn't a pissing contest: the point is, with all sti bolt ons, 20g, and e85 this thing is pretty darn quick. Its really easy to make a forester quick, in fact the 04's even have the same block and wiring as the STi, and you could literally drop in the vf turbo, tmic, and plug in the STi ecu and have an STi (minus the 6 speed and brakes).
Mod for mod they are pretty similar once you go past stock turbos. Heck, even their curb weight is almost identical.
11-02-2011, 08:05 PM
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Still vote the forester IMO for what you are doing as far as outdoor activities go... especially if you are coming off a vehicle like a jeep. Either way you win as both vehicles are great... but best of luck finding the forester XT in a manual transmission =(
11-02-2011, 08:13 PM
#30
NO KIDDING! They are a diamond in the ruff. Its okay thought because i have to get the house first so i have some time to find one. Still trying to decide if i want an 04 or 07-08. Really like the 07-08 body style but like the easy swap of the 04.
