funny, there's nothing in your post about subaru

 

yeah I bet if you tell them you want to buy a new car, and to take off all the warrenties and you give you the cash back the dealer won't want to do that. They are quick to push and extended warrenty on you just cause. They are willing to tell you anything about the car even though it is not true. I have been to dealerships where I knew more about the car than they did. You go in there and tell them you want a new car and you gonna race it so you don't need any warrites what so ever and see what they say.

 

true, but I wanted to use an example of another car to show that no matter what the intent of the owner, the intent of the manufacturer is that the car (no matter how sporty it is) remains a "street car" and they want no liability from those kinds of incidents that may result. Would you want somebody to take a product you made/invented, mod something and have yourself be responsible for the outcome (if it was bad) because of what he did to your product? I wouldn't.

Tim

 

I wasn't really talking about mods. Okay, heres whats bothering me. People are always going to drive fast no matter what, and subaru uses this to its advantage in its marketing. Every single commercial about the wrx has to do with its speed and power. Hell, even in the commercial they are rallying(sp?) it! But when someone takes the car to a scca event or just even to wednesday night drags, they can void their warranties, whether they have mods or not. So what happens? People are afraid to go to the track because they are worried that they might get caught, so they do something really stupid and street race. I feel that if subaru is worried about their car not being able to hold up to the punishment, then they shouldn't advertise it in that way. This discussion has been done so many times in here and its starting to get tiring! I guess that I wish subaru would be more considerate to all of us that have the need for speed

 

Subaru has faith in it's cars, but it does not have the same faith in the people who drive them. That is my take on the situation.

You play, you pay. It is the name of the game. Rarely will a car "break" because of a factory defect. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but people must remember warranties are to cover factory defects, not user error/abuse. Daily driving failure is not the same as racing failure.

 

Hmm... This is the "watch the fine print" type of advertising. I don't like it either since it tells people to go out into the woods and tear up stuff and to drive irresponsibly on city streets.

So what should Subaru do? Not advertise the WRX and have it as maybe some sort of special "version" only available to a limited few? Maybe they need something that Ford was doing with their early model (maybe late too?) Cobra Rs. They maybe need racing licenses to drive them? However, that sorta limits the cars to a priviledged few in America while the intent of Subaru was to have it available to the public.

Note tho that, Saab (with their Saabaru), Toyota (with their Celica), Acura(with their RSX), Mazda(with their RX-8), and vice versa (even Volkswagon. look at the way they speed past the cop in one of their commercials), want those cars to be marketed as sporty. So they advertise the same way for any car that exonerates speed and handling.

Tim

 

Our local dealership here has sponsered track days so I just can't see them denying any warrenty work. But here in Hawaii we do not deal with SOA..The dealership brings Subaru's from Japan.

 

I heard Mitsubishi is almost bankrupt... where are all those EVO's going for service
when they are all bust???????????????????

 

Any KrispyKreme bench racing "experts" know what the racing (abuse) warranty is on a new 150K Porsche? Ferrari? Maserati? et al?
Maybe a Saker? Saleen? etc.

So much smoke and BS.

My clutch is worn out and the flywheel is blue by the first oil change. Will you pay for my driving lessons and low IQ?

You race it, you break it, you own it. What's so hard to understand?

 

Do what the Porsche guys do when they total a car racing at Willow etc...

leave it in the middle of the desert and claim it was stolen...

No, not a good idea... that's why insurance premiums are so high!

You race it, and it's all out of pocket since the dealers only get paid 1/2 the labor rate for warranty work, so they are going to fight you tooth and nail..

Never mind racing wear.. most dealers give you a hard time with routine warranty items you'd think it was coming out of THEIR pocket!!!!

 

why did we ressurect this?

 

What is even funnier is that Subaru hosts their own regional Auto Cross events - does this mean if you particapate in one of their events your warranty is void. That would be pretty F'd up.

www.subaruchallenge.com

 

read the first line...

http://www.subaruchallenge.com/legal.htm