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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I refuse to get my hands dirty so I have my oil changed. LOL. Yeah Right. What's The Best Oil to change into a 2006 2.5i?
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyStas
Get oem filter from subaru along with gasket.
The Subaru genuine oil filter is the only oil filter to
use on a Subaru because it has no drainback valve so you
don't have dry starts.Honeywell a company in canada that makes
the newer "blue" Subaru genuine oil filters.
I took my 04 WRX to my local Subaru dealership a few times for
oil changes and they actually did a pretty good job at only $30.00
it's not a bad deal.
Now I always change my own oil though.
I use.
Castrol Syntec Blend 10W30
Subaru genuine oil filter
Crush washer from Subaru.
Don't forget to inspect/replace your air filter!!
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX409
The Subaru genuine oil filter is the only oil filter to
use on a Subaru because it has no drainback valve so you
don't have dry starts.
Honeywell a company in canada that makes
the newer "blue" Subaru genuine oil filters.
I took my 04 WRX to my local Subaru dealership a few times for
oil changes and they actually did a pretty good job at only $30.00
it's not a bad deal.
Now I always change my own oil though.
I use.
Castrol Syntec Blend 10W30
Subaru genuine oil filter
Crush washer from Subaru.
Don't forget to inspect/replace your air filter!!
Source? Sounds like a line of crap a "service" writer would make up.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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The current Subaru OEM filters are crap. IIRC, they're being made by Fram now.

I'd use a Wix oil filter and a synthetic 10w30 oil of your choosing.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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I heard that OEM filters are made by ferries and sprites but they're Canadian so they don't use the magical bypass valve.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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I used to go to Wallmart and put in Valvoline 5/30 synthetic, I will be going to GST from now on when they have time on my new motor. If im gonna pay someone to do it I would rather support my local shop. Yes I am too lazy to do oil changes or any work on my car myself.
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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My 2002 WRX was the easiest car to do oil changes on that I've ever owned, and I've owned 12 cars which I've changed the oil on in my life so far.
I didn't even need to lift the car up, I could just slide under. I recommend buying a Fumotovalve, so you don't have to screw with a wrench for the drain plug. It's not that big of a deal, but it's pretty nice not having to worry about using any tools other than your bare hands for an oil change. Plus you don't have to worry about dropping the drain plug into the oil catch can...everyone's done it at least once!
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BlingBlingBlue
My 2002 WRX was the easiest car to do oil changes on that I've ever owned, and I've owned 12 cars which I've changed the oil on in my life so far.
I didn't even need to lift the car up, I could just slide under. I recommend buying a Fumotovalve, so you don't have to screw with a wrench for the drain plug. It's not that big of a deal, but it's pretty nice not having to worry about using any tools other than your bare hands for an oil change. Plus you don't have to worry about dropping the drain plug into the oil catch can...everyone's done it at least once!
Did you cut a slot into the threads of the valve? I suggest that after "completely" draining your pan by simply opening the valve, that you remove the valve completely and then jack up the driver side front. You'll get about 3-4 tablespoons of sludge from the bottom of the pan...at least I did. It looks like regular dirty oil, but since it's the bottom 1/4 cup, it's bound to have all of the heavy metals and sticky sludge in it that couldn't get over the lip of the valve.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cody8675309
Source? Sounds like a line of crap a "service" writer would make up.
Source? Yes Cody!
According to Subaru of America in
Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
The key component of the lubrication system is the oil filter.The
Subaru Genuine oil filter,avaiable at your local Subaru dealer,is the
only filter that Subaru has tested to meet requirements for filtration
and flow.Aftermarket oil filters may have different filtration performance and relief-valve opening pressures.which could affect filter and engine operation.
Subaru Genuine oil filters help ensure optimum engine and turbocharger
peformance.
Also the knowledgable guys on the forum www.bobistheoilguy.com
highly recommend using the Subaru Genuine oil filter on your Subaru.
I subjest you do a search Cody.
I'm not a service writer I just happen to be a history teacher would
you like a history lesson?
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Okay, so the marketing spiel that you copied and pasted (presumably) from SOA, is first of all, obviously marketing propaganda, and 2nd, doesn't support your earlier statement, that, "The Subaru genuine oil filter is the only oil filter to
use on a Subaru because it has no drainback valve so you
don't have dry starts."
It seems you have misread or misunderstood the marketing spiel.

And the guys on bobistheoilguy recommend the older OEM oil filters for sure. But do they recommend the new ones? Link me if they do.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cody8675309
Did you cut a slot into the threads of the valve? I suggest that after "completely" draining your pan by simply opening the valve, that you remove the valve completely and then jack up the driver side front. You'll get about 3-4 tablespoons of sludge from the bottom of the pan...at least I did. It looks like regular dirty oil, but since it's the bottom 1/4 cup, it's bound to have all of the heavy metals and sticky sludge in it that couldn't get over the lip of the valve.
Nope, never did anything buy flip the lever and drain the oil, but I did have a UOA done at 108K miles (104K of which I'd used the Fumotovalve) and the specs on my oil were all normal. I always drained the oil immediately after driving the car, which probably helps.
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlingBlingBlue
Nope, never did anything buy flip the lever and drain the oil, but I did have a UOA done at 108K miles (104K of which I'd used the Fumotovalve) and the specs on my oil were all normal. I always drained the oil immediately after driving the car, which probably helps.
Of course your UOA was clean. All of the metal shavings and sludge were still in the bottom of the pan surrounding the half inch lip of the Fumoto Valve. :P
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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denso has the check valve

subaru oil fitlers are tehy only ones subaru has tested
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX409
Source? Yes Cody!
According to Subaru of America in
Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
The key component of the lubrication system is the oil filter.The
Subaru Genuine oil filter,avaiable at your local Subaru dealer,is the
only filter that Subaru has tested to meet requirements for filtration
and flow.Aftermarket oil filters may have different filtration performance and relief-valve opening pressures.which could affect filter and engine operation.
Subaru Genuine oil filters help ensure optimum engine and turbocharger
peformance.
Also the knowledgable guys on the forum www.bobistheoilguy.com
highly recommend using the Subaru Genuine oil filter on your Subaru.
I subjest you do a search Cody.
I'm not a service writer I just happen to be a history teacher would
you like a history lesson?
yes get in the poli forum we need more educated peeps in there
Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cody8675309
Okay, so the marketing spiel that you copied and pasted (presumably) from SOA, is first of all, obviously marketing propaganda, and 2nd, doesn't support your earlier statement, that, "The Subaru genuine oil filter is the only oil filter to
use on a Subaru because it has no drainback valve so you
don't have dry starts."
It seems you have misread or misunderstood the marketing spiel.

And the guys on bobistheoilguy recommend the older OEM oil filters for sure. But do they recommend the new ones? Link me if they do.
Since the Subaru oil filter is mounted "upside down" at the bottom of the
engine,an anti-drainback valve is not necessary,as gravity will keep the oil
in the filter when the engine is off.However,a good bypass valve that doesn't pass unfiltered oil until the specified high pressure is reached is as important
on Subarus as on other engines.A well constructed filter cartridge,with a
leak free connection to the central outlet threads is important,as are good
filtration media and plenty of surface area in the intake holes around the perimeter of the filter end and the holes in the metal scaffold around the
central core.The latter two sets of holes,along with the surface area of
filtration medium,minimize the pressure reduction caused by resistance to
flow inside the filter.
I agree Cody the older "black" Tokyo Roki filters made in Japan are fantastic,
very durable and very high quality.
Dealers have pulled the older "black" filters off of the shelves for some reason and replacing them with the blue ones.It is most likely cost related Canada is alot closer than Japan.
Indeed the new blue filters are made by Honeywell Canada and the innards are almost identical to orange can Frams.I belive that the cardboard
endcaps and the plastic bypass valves in the blue filters is what people
dislike the most in the oil filters construction.
Having in the past cut open and inspecting the older white Subaru oil filter
made in the U.S.A. from Purolator it seemed we'll constructed and high quality.
The only other oil filter on Bob's oil forum they recommend using is
the Purolator Pure One oil filter because they say that it is very close
construction of the OEM Subaru oil filter.
Unlike some I belive that Subarus real world testing and research on the
Subaru OEM oil filters plays a major role on how the filters are actually
designed and how we'll they flow.



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