95 EJ20tt into a 96 Legacy Wagon
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95 JDM EJ20tt into a 96 USDM Legacy Wagon
Has anyone had a chance to do a swap. I just purchased the complete engine with complete wiring, ECU and Up/Down pipes, intercooler and turbo/s.
An auto trans is also included but I would like to stay with my current manual if possible. What else would I need? Any help or input would be great.
Do I need a different crossmember, can I modify mine??
I appreciate your help.
An auto trans is also included but I would like to stay with my current manual if possible. What else would I need? Any help or input would be great.
Do I need a different crossmember, can I modify mine??
I appreciate your help.
Last edited by hotman8; Dec 17, 2002 at 01:08 PM.
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hotman8, Unless that 96 is a Right hand steering "postal" model you have more problems ahead than mating up the wiring. Much discussion has preceded this swap, and it's generally agreed that the swap would be VERY complicated if not impossible due to the location of the turbos where the USDM steering gear resides. Good luck!
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You may want to post on the "other" i-club Legacy forum, as well as ask on the "Factory" and "Non-factory" turbo forums on both boards if anyone has successfully accomplished this swap. From what I gather the twin-turbo machines are very complex beasts. There are a number of tt-owner/members residing in Japan on the other Legacy board as well. Not meaning to offend anyone here.
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The EJ20TT swap has been completed sucessfully into a members LHD Legacy already, he did say it took some fabrication for the turbo piping on the left side to clear the steering shaft, which in turn brought it almost in contact with the master cylinder.
let me try to find it.
[edit: Glenn beat me to the other part]
let me try to find it.
[edit: Glenn beat me to the other part]
Last edited by AKSubie; Dec 17, 2002 at 02:48 PM.
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OK, found the thread, or one of them.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=216714
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=216714
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Since I don't have the motor yet, is it a big deal if the wire harness is cut or not? I guess the one I am looking at is cut......just found out? The guy earlier told me it was complete.
The link that was provided is awesome! It can be done. I am a welder/fabricator so I think I can get by with the mods.
The link that was provided is awesome! It can be done. I am a welder/fabricator so I think I can get by with the mods.
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Cool!! I was only trying to discourage ya cuz that kind of work is far beyond most of us, past dreaming that is!!! Please keep us posted on your progress, with pics if at all possible. Do you think you'll run afoul of the California smog-*****?
Far as the harness, as I followed the post AKSubie provided, the ideal would be a full front clip, but depending on where it's cut, maybe one of the guys in Japan could provide some wiring help? Does seem you'd need the ecu/harness etc for certain. Have you tried e-mailing rota wheels wrx for further assistance?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/memb...o&userid=13856
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Far as the harness, as I followed the post AKSubie provided, the ideal would be a full front clip, but depending on where it's cut, maybe one of the guys in Japan could provide some wiring help? Does seem you'd need the ecu/harness etc for certain. Have you tried e-mailing rota wheels wrx for further assistance?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/memb...o&userid=13856
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You guys are awesome!! So much help.
I sent an email to the guy, just waitin for a response.
The fabrication doesn't bug me too much. I was a welder/fabricator for about 6 years.....just not on cars. As far as the wiring?? Electic what?? goes where?? I'm too green on that part.
I guess the guy says he will now give me a complete harness and I will have access to other front clip parts if needed.
Although now a new question regarding the older engine in a newer car?? Anyone know...........
I have a local shop who will do the smog. Shouldn't be an issue. Connections connections!
What I will get right away is the engine, trans, turbos, ECU, complete wire harness and the intercooler.
Thanks again!!
Chet
I sent an email to the guy, just waitin for a response.
The fabrication doesn't bug me too much. I was a welder/fabricator for about 6 years.....just not on cars. As far as the wiring?? Electic what?? goes where?? I'm too green on that part.
I guess the guy says he will now give me a complete harness and I will have access to other front clip parts if needed.
Although now a new question regarding the older engine in a newer car?? Anyone know...........
I have a local shop who will do the smog. Shouldn't be an issue. Connections connections!
What I will get right away is the engine, trans, turbos, ECU, complete wire harness and the intercooler.
Thanks again!!
Chet
Last edited by hotman8; Dec 18, 2002 at 08:44 AM.
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Technically yes, it is illegal to put an older engine in a newer car. AK unfortunately basically copied CA smog laws, which basically state the engine has to be newer then the car it's going in to and the resulting configuration must be an approved engine/chassis combo. (i.e. 02 WRX engine into 93 impreza=OK, 94 Legacy Turbo engine into 00 Legacy=not OK) If you've got an "in" then your good to go, theoretically, once your tags are current, there shouldn't be much problems. If you got caught though I don't know what your fines/problems would be.
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Thanks for the info AKSubie.
Gosh, I'm confused as to what to do now? I don't want issues with the law especially when and if I ever sell this car. I have a feeling I should probably stick to a newer motor and one that will fit without all the hassles.
As far as a reply fir nubaru2:
Right now I have a set of Intrax springs, nothing else on the suspension. This is a Brighton wagon so I will be changing from Drum to disk in the rear within the next week or so.
Gosh, I'm confused as to what to do now? I don't want issues with the law especially when and if I ever sell this car. I have a feeling I should probably stick to a newer motor and one that will fit without all the hassles.
As far as a reply fir nubaru2:
Right now I have a set of Intrax springs, nothing else on the suspension. This is a Brighton wagon so I will be changing from Drum to disk in the rear within the next week or so.
Last edited by hotman8; Dec 18, 2002 at 12:04 PM.