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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Choku Dori
You know what man? I'm gonna have to bust your ***** here because of your hot shiet, arrogant attitude.
STi stands for Subaru Technica International, which is Subaru's in-house tuning company. It is comparable to AMG for Mercedes Benz, Mugen for Honda, Ralli Art for Mitsubishi, Mazda Speed for Mazda (duh), Mopar for Dodge, and countless other in-house tuners.
Your comparison of STi to Type R is incorrect and misguided (to put it lightly). The Type R is a trim level for Hondas, similiar to the WRX designation of the Impreza (or if you insist on equivalence of trim level, one could say the Spec C). The STi model Impreza as you like to refer to it has a full name: the Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version. "STi Version" denotes that the car is STi's own tuned version of a WRX, simliar to the Honda Mugen Integra Type R or the Mugen Prelude SiR (both Japanese exclusive models). However, STi does not just do in-house tuning, it also manufactures performance parts for Subaru. The correct Honda comparison would be Mugen, NOT Type R. Mugen is an in-house tuner, Mugen also manufactures performance parts. Type R is merely a model designation, just as Spec C is merely a model designation. STi is NOT just a model designation. STi manufactures parts as well as tunes for Subaru. Type R does NOT manufacture parts. Spec C does NOT manufacture parts. Type R IS a model desiganation, similar to Spec C (full name being Impreza WRX STi Version Spec C).
Thus, if you have STi parts, feel free to put on STi decals or logos. Similarly, if you drive a Honda, feel free to put on Mugen decals if you have Mugen parts. But don't put on Type R badges unless you have a real Type R. Don't put them on either if you only have Type R parts -- you need a complete Type R before you slap on Type R, just as you can't slap Spec C onto your STi version unless you're really driving a JDM Impreza WRX STi Version Spec C (which will be correctly badged already from the factory anyway).
This brings us back to Subaru badging. I'd say the equivalent of Type R posing is placing Spec C or Type RA badging on your Impreza. Understand? Good, I had hoped that you would
first of all. use paragraphs man.

second of all. you just agreed with me. look at the part in bold. and look at what i posted above. if you have STi parts. STi makes performance parts correct? ok. so what performance parts does STi make? well, engine can be STi tuned, transmission, suspension. Foglamp covers are not STi PERFORMANCE parts. so if you put on STi foglamp covers on your WRX and leave the STi badging on you are a ricer. if you put an STi sticker next to your shifter and you don't have an STi transmission, you are a ricer.

So if you've installed an STi engine, transmission, turbo, intercooler, or any other PERFORMANCE part that STi makes then go ahead put on an STi sticker. but sparingly.

Even those people who put in USDM STi seats b/c they say STi on them is ridiculous. the 04 WRX and 04 STi seats are the same except for the STi letters.

Cliff notes : if you put on STi fog covers with the 'sti' letters on your WRX , you are a ricer.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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Don't the fog light covers already come with the STi lettering?

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the STi foglight covers (mainly the solid ones, but also the mesh ones to a lesser extent) direct airflow towards the brakes for better cooling?
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by MRF582
So if you've installed an STi engine, transmission, turbo, intercooler, or any other PERFORMANCE part that STi makes then go ahead put on an STi sticker. but sparingly.

Even those people who put in USDM STi seats b/c they say STi on them is ridiculous. the 04 WRX and 04 STi seats are the same except for the STi letters.
now you're just hurting your credentials. sti uses ihi turbo and the sti seats are quite different from wrx seats, especially 03 model down. 04 wrx seats have integrated head rest, but the sti seats still have better material.

that said, who gets to decide how many sti parts you have to put in before you can wear the sti badge? what about springs, shocks, or engine mounts? the point is that it's a personal decision and you *****ing about it isn't going to stop some kid putting on sti mesh fog light covers, which already have "sti" spray-painted on them.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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egh...its their own car, have them do whatever the f*%$ they want with it...but they are just fools who try to play into the trend and whom have no idea what the R or whatever badge you stick on your car actually means...to each his own...just be for-warned that if you rice out your car, your **** is gonna be laughed at and mocked by the ppl who actually know their ish..but if you dont mind that...then heck slap that huge *** TYPE-R or STI decal on the side of your car so everyone knows you have a STI oooooo LOL
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by DanyoCantDrift
but if you dont mind that...then heck slap that huge *** TYPE-R or STI decal on the side of your car so everyone knows you have a STI oooooo LOL
haha, yup.


btw, to the people who like STi badging on your non STi car. it's your car man. whatever floats your boat.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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now you're just hurting your credentials. sti uses ihi turbo and the sti seats are quite different from wrx seats, especially 03 model down. 04 wrx seats have integrated head rest, but the sti seats still have better material.

that said, who gets to decide how many sti parts you have to put in before you can wear the sti badge? what about springs, shocks, or engine mounts? the point is that it's a personal decision and you *****ing about it isn't going to stop some kid putting on sti mesh fog light covers, which already have "sti" spray-painted on them.

you seemed to miss the point of my post. when i mentioned the word 'turbo' in the list of parts that is different on the STi as compared to the WRX i didn't mean to say that STi makes the turbo. the point of that sentence was actually in capital letters when i said 'PERFORMANCE parts' so if y ou want to nitpick about 'oohh...you said turbo, STi doesn't make turbos..hahaha got you" then whatever.

so let me clarify for you, since you're giving me a vibe that you are a little slow. if you don't have STi performance parts on your car do not have STi badging.

also, i'm not *****ing, i'm merely find ricers amusing who will go to great lengths to justify their ricer tendencies. the way i see it there is a little ricer in all of us. i'll admint that i've had ricer tendencies too, but atleast i'll admit to it. some people will get all defensive, (like you) and try to prove to the world that certain things aren't rice. it's your car man, do whatever you want. if STi badges make you feel cool and make you a hit with the girls, then go for it :banana:

EDIT - also your comment about how the 03 and down seats are different compared to the 04 STi seats. ummm, dude did you not read my post carefully? i clearly mentioned that there is no difference between the 04 WRX seats and the 04 STi seats... notice the fact that i said '04 WRX'
looks like your reading and comprehension skills aren't quite on par with the rest of us. please read my post carefully next time. thanks.

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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Face it MRF582, you're not gonna win this argument man
And I did use paragraphs man! Just didn't use indentation is all haha. Whatever, you have your own opinions and so do the rest of us.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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In the end, its your car and you can do what ever the hell you want to do with it.
It all comes down to what type of image your trying to put out. If you stick a STi badge on you trunk lid to make your car look like the Impreza WRX STi, then thumbs down. If you transform your
WRX to STi spec, then by all means, go for it. you've spent all that money on the drive and prowertrain. Leaving the stickers that CAME on a part like the fog light covers is fine. Thats how it came. A WRX trunk lid didnt come w/ a STi badge on there, but in the end, you have to look at the image your car is putting out.
There is a guy in san fransisco that my younger brother knows. he has a Impreza 2.5 TS and had installed a WRX hood and WRX badging on the rear trunk lid, and goes around telling everyone he has a WRX all bad.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by nKoan
Don't the fog light covers already come with the STi lettering?

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the STi foglight covers (mainly the solid ones, but also the mesh ones to a lesser extent) direct airflow towards the brakes for better cooling?

no not on the 02-04
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by MRF582
isn't a Type R just a civic or an integra with upgraded parts kind of like a WRX STi is just an impreza with upgraded parts? so if a civic has Type R wheels on it, it's allowed to put Type R badges on?

if people have upgraded their WRX to an STi by changing the engine or drivetrain or suspension. then i guess they are allowed to put STi stickers on. but it's the people who have WRX which come with foglamps and they put on STi fog covers like "oooh...my car is more like an STi now b/c i got the same fog covers it has"

people who have FMIC's whould put on fog covers but get rid of the vinyl that says STi. basically unless impreza owners have upgraded to the STi engine, suspension, drivetrain etc. do NOT put STi badges on. do NOT put in STi floormats. don't install STi fog lamp covers.
if you're going to drag honda into this...

sti is more akin to the artist formerly known as mugen (before they had to ditch the name for tax evasion). it's a tuner. if someone has a hardon to put sti stickers on his car, who cares? if it's done WELL, it is no big deal. if they plaster stickers all over their car then we get to have a good laugh at their expense. big deal.

i like leaving the R like that, if for nothing else than to make fun of all those wicked sick tempo type R drivers.

that looks too damn funny. i love it for that
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by jsmonet

i like leaving the R like that, if for nothing else than to make fun of all those wicked sick tempo type R drivers.

that looks too damn funny. i love it for that

thank you jsmonet it took 4 pages for some one to get it thank you again
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by MRF582
EDIT - also your comment about how the 03 and down seats are different compared to the 04 STi seats. ummm, dude did you not read my post carefully? i clearly mentioned that there is no difference between the 04 WRX seats and the 04 STi seats... notice the fact that i said '04 WRX'
looks like your reading and comprehension skills aren't quite on par with the rest of us. please read my post carefully next time. thanks.
to quote my post: "04 wrx seats have integrated head rest, but the sti seats still have way better material." so, to borrow your oh-so-clever cliff notes analogy, wrx seats != sti seats.

thanks for taking the extra time to edit your post to get back at me and resorting to petty insults, though. you're a star!

Originally posted by MRF582
btw, to the people who like STi badging on your non STi car. it's your car man. whatever floats your boat.
nice one on the 180 laissez-faire attitude change, champ! could have save us all a page or so of pointless argument.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by sigma pi
no not on the 02-04
Oh, ok. I figured *if* it did do anything, it wasn't going to be much (especially at the speeds we normally drive at).

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