Will OEM STi top-mount be sufficient for 16g turbo? (was: Intercooler question...?)
10-05-2006, 10:23 PM
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Intercooler question...?
Hey everyone, I had a question. I was wondering if an STi TMIC would be able to support an 16G with supporting mods on an 05 WRX without having to worry about heatsoak with a protune on 91 and 100 octane.(will be getting the STi hoodscoop and air spliter as well...) Does anyone know if the TMIC would be able to do this job even in the hot summer weather? I'm aware that an FMIC would bring more power and such, but I really don't want to go through a HUGE hassle of taking off the FMIC and such if I get popped and get issued a ref ticket...
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10-05-2006, 10:36 PM
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nope. if it were a JDM STi IC then maybe. The STi IC is not much larger then a WRX IC. Your best bet is to get an ebay TMIC, or go front mount. :\
This is actually the same setup that Ed of EQ Tuning has on his car, but the ebay IC is coated by Crucial.
This is actually the same setup that Ed of EQ Tuning has on his car, but the ebay IC is coated by Crucial.
10-05-2006, 11:20 PM
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Honestly all the guys i have seen with FP series turbos on STIs have upgraded their intercoolers. I would think a Ebay TMiC, or if you want to go namebrand, a ARC or Perrin or something TMIC would work just fine. They are much easier installs also. For me i got a Ebay TMIC, godspeed i think it was. All i had to do was get a aftermarket Y pipe (samco) and move the metal lines behind the intercooler a little farther back. Worked perfect.
10-05-2006, 11:21 PM
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hrm. if the power output is equivalent to a vf34, then i would say a sti tmic would do the job. i'm running the stock wrx top mount on my car tuned by mike @ gst and made 256 whp and 220 wtq safely. I've also touched the core of the ic several times immediately after shutting down the engine, and it's cool to the touch. I dont have any hard facts though, just from what i've seen personally.
Oh one more thing though, i'm running the 'jdm' splitter and it directs air much better throughout the intercooler vs the stock one that came on the car. I'm sure that helps with the cooling as well. Granted, i'm no expert.
Oh one more thing though, i'm running the 'jdm' splitter and it directs air much better throughout the intercooler vs the stock one that came on the car. I'm sure that helps with the cooling as well. Granted, i'm no expert.
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Originally Posted by Khooda
Hey everyone, I had a question. I was wondering if an STi TMIC would be able to support an 16G with supporting mods on an 05 WRX without having to worry about heatsoak with a protune on 91 and 100 octane.(will be getting the STi hoodscoop and air spliter as well...) Does anyone know if the TMIC would be able to do this job even in the hot summer weather? I'm aware that an FMIC would bring more power and such, but I really don't want to go through a HUGE hassle of taking off the FMIC and such if I get popped and get issued a ref ticket...
TIA,
Ben
TIA,
Ben
theres actually a few different sizes of 16Gs, hell they even make a TD06 16g! But for a 16G sized around VF34 amount of CFM than the STI top mount would actually be a pretty good choice, hell miguel made 323 whp with an APS SR40 on 91oct on Gruppe-s dyno with a safe tune, and MARKSTI ran that 11.4 with hisoriginal FP Green with a stock US STI top mount, so dont let anyone tell you it cant be used on larger turbo just fine
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10-05-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AzN121184
not too familar with the 16g, but how much power will that turbo usually make with supporting mods, i'm assuming this is on a wrx?
Yeah it's going on an 2.0 WRX. I saw someone post on another site....270hp ...not sure if it was whp though. It was also on a dyno jet. And I think it was an TD05H 16g...not sure if that would be the "big or small" though.. I know it's not from an Evo though.
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10-05-2006, 11:43 PM
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don't listen to Krinkov, he has no real world experience. 
hahahaha.
it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
hahahaha.it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
10-05-2006, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdrama
don't listen to Krinkov, he has no real world experience. hahahaha.
it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
hahahaha.it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
10-09-2006, 05:22 AM
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over in the UK,we like STi Topmounts...........got one on mine,tops out at 345.5 bhp,with a vf35 tubby,currently running this in my classic(CG8),standard pump and injectors,with a hayward scott sport cat......front mount has been fitted to another CG8 i know,currently running at 364.8bhp(more agressive map)......
so not really alot of difference between Tmic or Fmic,main increase will increased with the additional mods.......hope this helps....
so not really alot of difference between Tmic or Fmic,main increase will increased with the additional mods.......hope this helps....
10-11-2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdrama
don't listen to Krinkov, he has no real world experience. hahahaha.
it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
hahahaha.it's a joke see, he hangs around gruppe-s way more then me. I just read crap on the interweb that is spoken as truth! Man I need to go to bed!
FMIC is the way to go like Krink says, the TMIC will always get heat soaked. FMIC will be consistant and cool mucho better.
plus you loose your foglights if you have them and have to either get a JDM bumper beam or modify your stock one.
but a TMIC with water spray works pretty well , just give it a mist of water to help bring the heatsoak temp down.
10-13-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Krinkov
sorry to say this, but heatsoak will be a concern with any topmount you get regardless of what turbo you run. And yes the boat anchor Ebay topmounts soak up and hold in a lot of heat too, as a matter of fact once the radiant heat from the engine overpowers the abitlity of the topmounts core to cool, the heavier cast tank top mounts make a much better heat sink than the lighter stamped STI top mount
They do heat soak fast but after driving for ~ a minute or two it cools very fast. I have a TXS TMIC....but if I were to go back in time I would consider the ebay ssac ones. They seem to have good press lately. Although it is nice having a brand name
