Engine/Power - EJ20T (pre-2006 WRX and JDM) There is replacement for displacement, it is forced induction - OEM 2.0 liter turbo engines in the USDM WRX. 90-94 Legacy Turbo EJ22 turbo engines can also be discussed here.
View Poll Results: WHich turbo? to get into the 11's consistanly and direct replacement
Vf 34
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sr40
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Pe1820
8
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Green
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What kind of turbo? HELP want to be in the 11's

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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by XkrazyAsianX
okay ... there's just no way u'll be in the 11's ... a twin turbo charged viper with 800 hp and 850 torque runs flat 11's .. do you think a 2.0 L with a vf34 can match a v10 tt? ... i dont think so ( i read the results on the latest issue of car and driver)
ummm 9.99 and 2.4 0-60 holy ****
Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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On leaky, busted, old, crusty 7cm fpgreen, that has dents, muck and oil burning from it @ 20psi, 272 cams, quickly/cheaply ported heads, JUN Retainers/springs.. shim-under.., STOCK 70k bottom end (USDM), 785 CC Injectors, and a RAW tune running absolutely PIG rich, I went 12.23@111.74mph.. practically spitting fuel out the exhaust and grease spinning out of the stock axle boots, nevermind the 5th gear crunch on the highway when shifting.

Now.. with that Ultimate racing kit.. I've been thinking about putting a 50 shot in, with their stage 5 kit (I already have their fuel setup)... that should take off a little more.

Cams are pretty essential with a 2.0 to get to those speeds. I'm sure stock cams have made big numbers compared to my 353whp, 342wtq... but.. yeah.. I need to get my car TUNED; but working 5:30am till ~ 6pm everyday less saturdays and sundays (and days where we don't have enough work for the whole crew to be there) really gives me no choice.

I could always fabricate the downpipe and uppipe like ultimate's -- I do have the welding capabilites.. the time though.. the time.. goddammit.

Anywho.. let me know how you get there..
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yaya
that really doesnt say much. an 1100 hp supra ran 12.5 because once you get THAT much hp on street tires a 1/4 et is not a reliable source of how quick it is.

****, FF 400hp civics are running 10s. thats w/ 2.0L or less. im sure an AWD wrx can match that. hp does not relate directly to 1/4 et's necessarily
What?
Old Dec 18, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurk
What?
makes perfect sense. at that much power you need 4 link rear suspension, wheelie bars, 1000 dollar slicks, flared rear quarter panels to fit said tires, a 3 speed GM tranny or something, a parachute, a roll cage, seats, harnesses, a helmet, and a fire suit if you want to actually:

A: Use any of that power from a standing start
B: Not get thrown of the track for safety violations.

1000whp on street tires = wheelspin below 100mph

1000hp street supras are great on the freeway or in ridiculous drag setups, other than that the powers pretty much useless. Try driving a t78 supra fast around a corner. Will go something like this, lag, lag, lag, here comes the power, sweet, holy ****ing **** im spinning in circles and my tires are on fire.

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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I know of one guy running 11's. He has the Vishnu Stage 2 STI on c16 racegas. If you are considering 11's your best bet will be to call a tuner like Vishnu. Id give them a call and see how many questions they can answer for you.
Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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the greens a nice setup...for a 2.0 wrx.
if u want serious power maybe the gt30....but on street gas the car will be hard pressed to run 11's, unless u step up to a better motor.
BTW i have a green i my STI currently, and am happy with...but i am one of those people that has a sickness, and will in the end switch out for a GT30 or 35r.

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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Br1t1shguy

1000whp on street tires = wheelspin below 100mph

1000hp street supras are great on the freeway or in ridiculous drag setups, other than that the powers pretty much useless. Try driving a t78 supra fast around a corner. Will go something like this, lag, lag, lag, here comes the power, sweet, holy ****ing **** im spinning in circles and my tires are on fire.
This is so true. There are very few cars in the world that are both streetable and can get below 12.0 seconds... I'm fortunate to know someone who is co-owner of a detailing shop, and I've been over a few times and been able to drive some very exotic cars (Vipers, Ferraris, modded 600+ hp C5 Corvettes, etc) and without exception they are a pain in the *** in town, especially with a manual shift -- you can drive the Viper on city streets all day long in 1st gear, but simple things like parking require you to hotfoot the clutch/brake/gas like Fred Astaire... Ironically, usually the people who can afford to buy those cars don't have the skill or patience to drive them properly.

Manageable big power comes from actual displacement, period. The reason a 500 WHP Ferrari is manageable at all in town (barely!) is because that power is coming from 12 cylinders and 5.7 liters of displacement -- because the power source is broken into many "parts," so to speak, the power is much more modulated and controllable (and runs cooler!) than a turboed small-displacement engine. That's why Jaguar and Ferrari went for the 12-cylinder setups, even on 350 hp engines -- smooth delivery without the hitches and sudden jerk of a monster turbo spooling up with a burst of compressed air. Those cars are also designed from the ground up for putting that power to the ground, with outrageously low centers of gravity, high curb weight and axles capable of supporting monster wheel/tire widths...

Trying to coax 11 seconds out of an AWD sedan that was built as a mild sports car (with perhaps some spirited weekend driving in mind) just seems like a lost cause. By the time you change out the drivetrain, engine, exhaust, turbo, ECU and strip the interior, you could have made a used Camaro do 10s for $10,000 less. Those of us with turbo'd power plants hate to hear this, but "there's no replacement for displacement" when it comes to making 500+ hp in a streetable car. Those 400hp Hondas have to be trailered to and from events, and are rebuilt from the tires up after every race; I bet they go through an engine block every three trips to the strip.
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