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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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STi downpipe and Cobb stage 2 question

Is the STi downpipe catless or does it have a hi flow cat? I am about to get one but wanted to know if I could go to stage 2 with my AP if I get it. I like the stealth factor to it, but don't want to get it if can't go to stage 2.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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I have an 04 WRX BTW.
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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sti stock downpipe has 1 cat...and the other is in the catback.
Old Aug 11, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by thunder_sti
sti stock downpipe has 1 cat...and the other is in the catback.
To clarify this statement...the sti stock downpipe has a cat but it is not high flow...and there is no cat in the catback (silly rabbit)...the other cat is in the pipe between the downpipe and the catback exhaust. You can buy an aftermarket oversized (meaning longer than stock) downpipe (which you can get catless or w/ high flow cat) that replaces the two stock pipes w/ cats in the STi...the aftermarket downpipe connects right to the catback exhaust so you can use AP stage 2. Also, some are just getting a shorty downpipe which just replaces the stock STi DP and mates to the pipe w/ the 2nd cat. The oversized DP flows better especially if it is catless...there are a couple configurations out there that you can find if you look. Hope this helps or makes sense.
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Originally Posted by lastlaugh
Is the STi downpipe catless or does it have a hi flow cat? I am about to get one but wanted to know if I could go to stage 2 with my AP if I get it. I like the stealth factor to it, but don't want to get it if can't go to stage 2.
You can't get to stage-2 with an OEM STI downpipe...see COBB's website FAQ for their response to this question:



http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/accessport-faq.html

Q. What is needed for Stage 2?

A. We actually field a lot of calls with people wanting the Stage 2 AccessECU because the dyno graph looks a lot better, but they do not have a turbo-back exhaust. Here is a diagram of the exhaust to help you visualize:



The Stage 2 was tuned on a car with a full turbo-back system. If you have pieced together a less than optimal combo of parts or those that were not designed to work together you may not get the full benefits of the Stage 2 AccessECU. Boost may not come on as quickly and the peak power may be down from those that have a well designed full turbo-back system. If you have replaced the first section (second cat or downpipe section) and nothing else, then the Stage 2 map is what we would recommend. Again the results will be far less than optimal, but it will control the boost better than the Stage 1. If you have replaced sections 2-4 (third cat, mid-pipe, and muffler section then you are still Stage 1. You managed to get all except the part that makes the most difference. Again, we want to reiterate that Stage 2 will only get the intended results with a well designed complete turbo-back.
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^^^^^^ Yeah what he said...I misread the question...yeah you need an aftermarket DP to run stage 2.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Thanks fellas. I guess I got the STi Uppipe and downpipe confused. Its the Uppipe that is catless on the STi. Anyway, I ordered a Tsudo ETS downpipe off Ebay the other day. I saw a couple of reviews that were pretty good, and a friend of mine that has one recommended it too.
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Yeah getting a used OEM STi uppipe is the best for the money...can get them around 50-60 bucks...some need to have the tack welds on the heat shield redone or reinforced otherwise they will shake loose and rattle. You can also spray it w/ a DEI heat spray before installing if you want to keep the heat inside and the outside cool.

FYI...also when you get the uppipe make sure you have the right number of bolt studs for the install...some had to add in some to install it from the stock WRX uppipe.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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I've had my uppipe for a while now. Just got a factory one and gutted it.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lastlaugh
I've had my uppipe for a while now. Just got a factory one and gutted it.
You can do that too. Good luck.
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