New engine we made... (56k death)
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New engine we made... (56k death)
This is a neat idea and a VERY strong engine we made. We have a few of these floating around, and we are having 5 more sets of pistons made... 
Components:
legacy 2.2 turbo block (NEW)
USDM 2.5 STi crank
Pauter Forged Rods
CP Custom Forged Pistons
ARP Head Studs
Final Displacement: 2.35 Liters
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
Components:
legacy 2.2 turbo block (NEW)
USDM 2.5 STi crank
Pauter Forged Rods
CP Custom Forged Pistons
ARP Head Studs
Final Displacement: 2.35 Liters
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
Here is a few answers from Mike at the other forums:
Cert Compression on the motor pictured is 9:1. However, normally they are 8.5:1. Displacement is 2.35 liters. It is a 2.0 liter rod and a 2.5 liter stroke.
west The rev limit is mainly determined by the cylinder head valvetrain. However, we have had these motors to 9500 RPMS just fine.
stickman Yes, you can run AVCS heads on this block (if they are wired up ). Price for the base block is $3500. Tapping for larger head studs is $250 + $250 for the ARP head studs. This motor will handle 500+ hp on race fuel. We saw ~360 whp on pump gas and 412whp on 95 octane (modded wrx).
Porkchop-WRX Price answered above, and these will bolt right up to WRX or JDM STi heads.
dwx You are correct sir. However, if the demand is there... We could certainly have new pistons made to accommodate the 9:1 request
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
Cert Compression on the motor pictured is 9:1. However, normally they are 8.5:1. Displacement is 2.35 liters. It is a 2.0 liter rod and a 2.5 liter stroke.
west The rev limit is mainly determined by the cylinder head valvetrain. However, we have had these motors to 9500 RPMS just fine.
stickman Yes, you can run AVCS heads on this block (if they are wired up ). Price for the base block is $3500. Tapping for larger head studs is $250 + $250 for the ARP head studs. This motor will handle 500+ hp on race fuel. We saw ~360 whp on pump gas and 412whp on 95 octane (modded wrx).
Porkchop-WRX Price answered above, and these will bolt right up to WRX or JDM STi heads.
dwx You are correct sir. However, if the demand is there... We could certainly have new pistons made to accommodate the 9:1 request
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
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BAN SUVS Our basic upgrade package, ported heads, jun 272 cams.. Our Fuel system. tec3.
It had another 40HP in it im pretty sure, but the engine was newer and the fuel we had problems dialing out after 6000 RPMS.
Turbo was a t3/t4 hybrid.
Imprezer This motor is a step below the one in your car, you can make A LOT more power.
oldmansan I think I answered him, and yes this is ~360 WHEEL hp on a dyno dynamics dyno. Winter pump 93, similar to 'good' 91 octane.
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
It had another 40HP in it im pretty sure, but the engine was newer and the fuel we had problems dialing out after 6000 RPMS.
Turbo was a t3/t4 hybrid.
Imprezer This motor is a step below the one in your car, you can make A LOT more power.
oldmansan I think I answered him, and yes this is ~360 WHEEL hp on a dyno dynamics dyno. Winter pump 93, similar to 'good' 91 octane.
-Mike
www.axispowerracing.net
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Hey Mike! 
Really? Cool. Haha. Makes me feel even better. I am about done with fixing all the stuff. I am waitng for breather hoses then Dyno time.
With new 3" downpipe and new uppipe and NO AVCS, I should make the power I am craving.
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Why is the power falling off though? Ron said it was pulling all the way to the 9000.
Really? Cool. Haha. Makes me feel even better. I am about done with fixing all the stuff. I am waitng for breather hoses then Dyno time.
With new 3" downpipe and new uppipe and NO AVCS, I should make the power I am craving.
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Why is the power falling off though? Ron said it was pulling all the way to the 9000.
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Originally posted by Imprezer
Why is the power falling off though? Ron said it was pulling all the way to the 9000.
Why is the power falling off though? Ron said it was pulling all the way to the 9000.
notice the AFRs... After 6000 the tec3 decided it didnt want to let us control the fuel. We got that worked out but decided that this is a nice safe map for the gas we were running. However, if we could have dialed out after 6000 RPMs, things could be better... Notice where peak HP is. And a nice shelf of torque shown above.
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Glad to see that people are finally realizing the creative and reliable potential of 2.2 blocks.
So far it seems this “new” block resembles what Crawford Performance has been doing, and we have been selling, for quite some time now.
On another note: Not to start a pissing match, but the information on the dyno sheet seems strange, especially the low torque values/numbers for such a 2.2 stroker kit. I actually have an old dyno plot in which you can see one of our 2.2 strokers , which is very similar to your axis power racing 2.2 stroker.
Here is that same dyno plot overlayed with your dyno dynamics plot:
Lastly, Torque and HP should cross at 5250rpms. Why do they intersect at 4500 on your dyno sheet?
Regards,
Chris
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So far it seems this “new” block resembles what Crawford Performance has been doing, and we have been selling, for quite some time now.
On another note: Not to start a pissing match, but the information on the dyno sheet seems strange, especially the low torque values/numbers for such a 2.2 stroker kit. I actually have an old dyno plot in which you can see one of our 2.2 strokers , which is very similar to your axis power racing 2.2 stroker.
Here is that same dyno plot overlayed with your dyno dynamics plot:
Lastly, Torque and HP should cross at 5250rpms. Why do they intersect at 4500 on your dyno sheet?
Regards,
Chris
I-Speed USA
cescamilla@i-speed.us
Last edited by I-Speed USA; Jan 10, 2004 at 06:19 PM.