mbc question
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What are the negatives and positives to running wit a mbc? good idea? bad? wats the max boost i can run off stock turbo? let me kno wat u guys think
thanks
i was lookin at hallman boost controllers so i was curious...
own 02 wrx wit catback and bov..
thanks
i was lookin at hallman boost controllers so i was curious...
own 02 wrx wit catback and bov..
good and bad
good- NONE AT ALL-WASTE OF MONEY
Bad-will run lean major engine damage
- boost higher in higer gears. will cause fuel cut and possibly detonation
-can not boost much over stock on turbo because you would be not using the effect of the intercooler- higher engine combustion temp.
JUST SAVE THE MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS ENGINE MANAGEMENT
Bad-will run lean major engine damage
- boost higher in higer gears. will cause fuel cut and possibly detonation
-can not boost much over stock on turbo because you would be not using the effect of the intercooler- higher engine combustion temp.
JUST SAVE THE MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS ENGINE MANAGEMENT
Last edited by lightning_wrx; Feb 28, 2006 at 12:56 PM.
i put a hallman mbc on my 03, and yes it does creep in 3-5th, my car is almost all stock except hoses and bov. you shouldnt run much more boost than stock, mine would hesitate in 3-5th if i had it too high. its fun to have but i would save my money if i did it over again.
Originally Posted by stealthrex68
What are the negatives and positives to running wit a mbc? good idea? bad? wats the max boost i can run off stock turbo? let me kno wat u guys think
thanks
i was lookin at hallman boost controllers so i was curious...
own 02 wrx wit catback and bov..
thanks
i was lookin at hallman boost controllers so i was curious...
own 02 wrx wit catback and bov..
i've had one on my car for 40k miles.
good:
rock steady boost control
dead simple design
in my case, in cockpit "boost" **** to set desired levels
bad:
in the wrong/inexperienced hands they can kill your engine in a short time
have a "bad rap" as a result
some attention to part throttle full boost must be paid
stock turbo is known good up to 20psi--again IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. i ran that way all last winter. when i pulled it off it was in fine shape... ie no troubling amount of shaft play.
i had a LOT of supporting mods to do this. do not assume you can slap an mbc on a stock car and run 20psi for long. in fact, you won't get further than 200 feet before overboost fuel cut (set for 17-18psi) made you wake up and take notice in a hurry. you need full exhaust, fuel mods, engine management, gauges, *****, brains, etc.
for most intents and purposes, 15psi on a stage 1 (ie no mechanical mods) is safe.
16.5psi with no cats. set max boost in 4th gear. there is no reason you should be flooring your car in 5th gear.
hth
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i had one by turbo xs. than sold it. really gotta watch the boost gauge would over boost blah blah. the engine managment was way better. the mbc was a waste or 100 bucks
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