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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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I think it's the headlinght mod that did it...
Seriously though, you are running free flow intake, exhaust and stock injectors and you're running 18 psi of boost. And you raced on the highway in 4th gear, which means you were at full boost for more then a few seconds and cold weather made you even leaner then you already were. Did you really think the engne can take that kind of punishment? I would guess you've toasted a piston or 2. Time for a new block. Just make sure you get some gauges to monitor what your engine is doing and make sure you have fuel to support your mods.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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All I can say is uhhmm... DUH! Oh, and they're not going to warranty it. Just because you can turn it up to 18psi doesn't mean it's helping. At 18psi that turbo is putting out such hot air that you probably weren't running any faster than stock. With no engine management the stock computer is going to try to give you insane amounts of timing advance in the upper RPMs where it usually tapers boost. Lots of timing advance, lean fueling, high boost, and high intake temps = BOOM!

Wow, now I really don't feel so bad about my motor. Thanks.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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hey

i bet it was the turbo outlet that blew off, and the oil was from the turbo.

without sounding too harsh, everyone here is right. the cai causes a lean condition (dyno proven) and running 18 psi is simpy too much for the stock turbo. it was at night in Seattle, which means it was probably cold. pushing that cold dense air will also cause a lean condition, and that alone is scary with the crappy gas we have here in the US. All that probably combined to make one hell of a lean condition in cylinder 3 (imfamous for running lean) and blew the gasket, or the piston, or both. Or even more than that. maybe even cooked the turbo bearing seals.

either way you look at it, good luck with your new motor. as others have said, there is no way they will warranty it, even if you can get it back looking stock. Before you put all those parts on your new motor, do some research in this forum and the engine mgnt section. there is VOLUMES of knowledge here, and just a few hours could have saved you some $$.

good luck, and let us know how it goes.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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Isn't there a fuel cutoff on the stocker turbo ~ 17-18psi?

I would imagine that as the car runs ~15psi most of the time an extra 3psi wouldn't be so bad. Are you sure it was only 18psi?

I know the boost builds fast in 4th gear... maybe you overshot further.
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by WRXs2Fast4U
I put the car back to stock(pain in the ***) and I took it to another Subaru dealership. They took a look at it and they are covering it under waranty!
You lucked out.

Well I just bought a fuel pump, and a fuel regulator hopefully this will cause me from leaning out again! I also am leaving boost at 16psi, cause this is where the turbo is most efficient!
A fuel pump and regulator is not engine management! You should heed Josh's advice and read posts in this forum and the Engine Management forum.

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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by WRXs2Fast4U
Thanks for all of your input!!! I put the car back to stock(pain in the ***) and I took it to another Subaru dealership. They took a look at it and they are covering it under waranty! Yes they are!!! That's a good thing!
I hate you.
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by WRXs2Fast4U
If you guys were smart and scandalus, then you guys could get things covered under waranty too! What, did you think I was gonna pay $6gs to get my car fixed at the dealership! Hell no! So I took the time to put it back to stock, and I just played stupid! I don't see what is wrong with that!
How old are you? Becuase regardless of your age you are coming across as someone who:

a) Doesn't know and even admits that they don't know what they are doing in the way of modding the car.
b) Dishonest enough to do what you did in that you are basically flat out LIEING to the dealership

I mean did you seriously just listen to what some people on a message board on the internet say to do to modify your car? I went to MANy MANY forums over the course of 3 years and talked with EVERY tuner I could, in length, before I started to do the level of mods you are talking about on your car even at only 16psi!!! Do MORE research and get some freagin' gauges!!!

I just don't know what else to say but Wow... if you can't see how you are wrong in not knowing what you are doing and/or lieing to the dealership about what you did
Old Mar 6, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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hey, can you give me 5 numbers plus one power number?
Old Mar 6, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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josh

*sigh*

your own words speak volumes about who you are. really really sad....and pathetic....

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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Thumbs down

by the way statman you ever buy that stage 2
Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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Re: Just an FYI...

Originally posted by statman
I got a coupl of replies from the e-mails I sent. One was from a service manager at one of the Seattle dealerships who said that he'd tried to get it fixed there and SOA denied warranty coverage. This could've been the first place he tried to take it. Or maybe the guy at the second place changed his mind. Either way, he said he e-mailed all the other dealerships and SOA with the guys plate and VIN number. No way Subaru pays a cent on his warranty, even if it's not mod-related...
Damn, that's rough dude, funny but rough
Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Re: He may not get the last laugh...

Originally posted by statman
I sent a link of this thread without any explanation to all the Subie dealerships in the Seattle Washington area as well as Subaru-America.

Call me an a-hole if you like, but stuff like this just makes me sick. And anyone who comes to a forum to BRAG about being an immoral jerk DESERVES to be turned in.

Fraud charges ought to be brought against this guy...
Guys be civil here. No need for this type of activity.



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