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From: Bike Lane
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congrats!!!
your car comes with a pretty good BOV. the only reason to change it would be to get the woosh sound.
the stock one recirculates all the air back to the intake, while aftermarket BOV's shoot the air into the atmosphere. aftermarket
if you were to get one, the GFB BOV is pretty good for our cars because half the air goes back into the intake, and half into the atmosphere. so a search on BOV's and you will get back a ton of hits regarding the subject.
your car comes with a pretty good BOV. the only reason to change it would be to get the woosh sound.
the stock one recirculates all the air back to the intake, while aftermarket BOV's shoot the air into the atmosphere. aftermarket
if you were to get one, the GFB BOV is pretty good for our cars because half the air goes back into the intake, and half into the atmosphere. so a search on BOV's and you will get back a ton of hits regarding the subject.
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congrats too!!
I agreed DLUX WRX. The BOV gave you a bigger woosh sound. Personally I would like Blitz. About the Turbo timer, I guess we really have to have one in Turbo car. It help you turbo and motor a lot. Go to www.jdmtouch.com you can find a really good deal there.
Bryant
I agreed DLUX WRX. The BOV gave you a bigger woosh sound. Personally I would like Blitz. About the Turbo timer, I guess we really have to have one in Turbo car. It help you turbo and motor a lot. Go to www.jdmtouch.com you can find a really good deal there.
Bryant
Re: blow off valves
Originally posted by rskamfar
I just bought a 2004 silver WRX sedan. Yahoo !!! My first question is can I use a blow off valve on the stock motor? And should I buy a turbo timer to save my turbo? I am very new the the turbo world.
Thanks
I just bought a 2004 silver WRX sedan. Yahoo !!! My first question is can I use a blow off valve on the stock motor? And should I buy a turbo timer to save my turbo? I am very new the the turbo world.
Thanks
here's the linky
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...threadid=39011
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Originally posted by REXYBoi
for our cars it says in the manual that you do not need a turbo timer to cool down your car. Therefore, our cars dont need the timers, it would be a waste of your money, invest it elsewhere.
for our cars it says in the manual that you do not need a turbo timer to cool down your car. Therefore, our cars dont need the timers, it would be a waste of your money, invest it elsewhere.
i couldnt disagree more. if you drive your car like a grandma you dont need a timer. if you ever go driving hard, when you stop, pop your hood and take a look at your turbo. i guarantee it will be glowing if you were really driving it. after seing that you will want a timer.
Originally posted by international B
i couldnt disagree more. if you drive your car like a grandma you dont need a timer. if you ever go driving hard, when you stop, pop your hood and take a look at your turbo. i guarantee it will be glowing if you were really driving it. after seing that you will want a timer.
i couldnt disagree more. if you drive your car like a grandma you dont need a timer. if you ever go driving hard, when you stop, pop your hood and take a look at your turbo. i guarantee it will be glowing if you were really driving it. after seing that you will want a timer.
http://www.subaruwest.com/PDF_files/...1_techtips.pdf
http://www.spdusa.com/turbo_timer.htm
Due to the design of the turbo, a "cool down" procedure is not necessary. Having said that, I would never drive a car "hard" and then just park it. I always allow a mile or so of easy driving to allow all of the vehicle's components a chance to return to their normal operating temperatures.
Rexboi was spot on. FHI/SOA left it out of the manual for a reason.
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Hello,
Sorry for my not perfect english as I'm French and a new member on this forum. Seems great !
Just a quick question as you're talking of BOV's. What do you think of the Forge one ? It's the one i just bought for my car.
I've a European Subaru STI means 265hp with a 2LT engine. I also removed all the cat system and installed an AVCR on it. Should be around 330 hp now
Sorry for my not perfect english as I'm French and a new member on this forum. Seems great !
Just a quick question as you're talking of BOV's. What do you think of the Forge one ? It's the one i just bought for my car.
I've a European Subaru STI means 265hp with a 2LT engine. I also removed all the cat system and installed an AVCR on it. Should be around 330 hp now
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Originally posted by Kean
FHI/SOA addressed this issue as early as June 2001:
http://www.subaruwest.com/PDF_files/...1_techtips.pdf
http://www.spdusa.com/turbo_timer.htm
Due to the design of the turbo, a "cool down" procedure is not necessary. Having said that, I would never drive a car "hard" and then just park it. I always allow a mile or so of easy driving to allow all of the vehicle's components a chance to return to their normal operating temperatures.
Rexboi was spot on. FHI/SOA left it out of the manual for a reason.
- Kean
FHI/SOA addressed this issue as early as June 2001:
http://www.subaruwest.com/PDF_files/...1_techtips.pdf
http://www.spdusa.com/turbo_timer.htm
Due to the design of the turbo, a "cool down" procedure is not necessary. Having said that, I would never drive a car "hard" and then just park it. I always allow a mile or so of easy driving to allow all of the vehicle's components a chance to return to their normal operating temperatures.
Rexboi was spot on. FHI/SOA left it out of the manual for a reason.
- Kean
kean, spot on according to the manual... yes, but as you said yourself you wold never drive a car hard and park it and shut it off. I for one drive my car hard 200% of the time. so for me a timer is necessary, to maintain the life of my turbo. SOA obviously dosent think that we drive our cars hard. you can tell this just by looking at the differences between all jdm model imprezas and usdm ones. and besides, if a turbo is to go out after 36k miles, it is in their best intreset... then we have to pay for it on our dollar.
Originally posted by international B
kean, spot on according to the manual... yes, but as you said yourself you wold never drive a car hard and park it and shut it off. I for one drive my car hard 200% of the time. so for me a timer is necessary, to maintain the life of my turbo. SOA obviously dosent think that we drive our cars hard. you can tell this just by looking at the differences between all jdm model imprezas and usdm ones. and besides, if a turbo is to go out after 36k miles, it is in their best intreset... then we have to pay for it on our dollar.
kean, spot on according to the manual... yes, but as you said yourself you wold never drive a car hard and park it and shut it off. I for one drive my car hard 200% of the time. so for me a timer is necessary, to maintain the life of my turbo. SOA obviously dosent think that we drive our cars hard. you can tell this just by looking at the differences between all jdm model imprezas and usdm ones. and besides, if a turbo is to go out after 36k miles, it is in their best intreset... then we have to pay for it on our dollar.
As for what I said, I'll reiterate. The reason I take it easy after a "hard run" is to allow ALL of the vehicle's components the chance to return to their normal operating temperatures. It has nothing to do with the turbo specifically. I do the same on a normally aspirated car. A timer is not going to help cool down your transmission, drivetrain, brakes, etc. After reading the tech bulletin and researching this topic in detail, I have found no evidence that a TT makes a difference in a modern day turbo charged Subaru. If you study the design, you'll see that the turbo continues to be cooled by a flow of coolant even after the engine is shut off.
Here's an interesting experiment I came across in my research. It's for a Forrester XT but the design is essentially the same:
http://www33.brinkster.com/cammiecam/turbo.htm
I just figure FHI/SOA engineers must know something about their own design. If people choose to ignore that fact and spend money on a turbo timer, then so be it. The only reason I post this info is so folks that are considering the purchase of one can at least make an informed decision.
- Kean
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if you are going to buy a bov you will get better power if you use a plumb back bov as they do not let all the boost out like atmosphere ones do.
plumb back ones keeps some of the boost so that when you change gears then accelerate you will have more boost there than the other type would.
the best brand i have found is the avo bov and that is what i use.
plumb back ones keeps some of the boost so that when you change gears then accelerate you will have more boost there than the other type would.
the best brand i have found is the avo bov and that is what i use.
you dont need a turbo timer if you dont spool ur turbo up hella hard right before u shut ur engine off. if you hit full boost for long right before u turn off ur engine the oil will coke up inside the turbo (bad). i heard theres a water jacket in the stock turbo and some people say it makes us not need a turbo timer but i dunno a glowing turbo with oil sitting in place inside of it just doesnt seem like a good idea.
Isn't this a thread about blow-off valves
Back to the original question...
It is my understanding that unless you are going to modify boost/calibration to levels that exceed OEM settings by any significant amount, the only thing an aftermarket blow off valve is good for is sound.
By "blowing off" all turbo pressure in a stock setup, you are actually going to lose response between shifts because the turbo will require more energy (and hence, more time) to "spool up" again...
Just thought I'd add my two cents and save you money (unless you want the cool sound, of course)
Dave
It is my understanding that unless you are going to modify boost/calibration to levels that exceed OEM settings by any significant amount, the only thing an aftermarket blow off valve is good for is sound.
By "blowing off" all turbo pressure in a stock setup, you are actually going to lose response between shifts because the turbo will require more energy (and hence, more time) to "spool up" again...
Just thought I'd add my two cents and save you money (unless you want the cool sound, of course)
Dave
Re: Isn't this a thread about blow-off valves
Originally posted by dhm2163
Back to the original question...
Back to the original question...
Originally posted by SnoHumper
you dont need a turbo timer if you dont spool ur turbo up hella hard right before u shut ur engine off. if you hit full boost for long right before u turn off ur engine the oil will coke up inside the turbo (bad). i heard theres a water jacket in the stock turbo and some people say it makes us not need a turbo timer but i dunno a glowing turbo with oil sitting in place inside of it just doesnt seem like a good idea.
you dont need a turbo timer if you dont spool ur turbo up hella hard right before u shut ur engine off. if you hit full boost for long right before u turn off ur engine the oil will coke up inside the turbo (bad). i heard theres a water jacket in the stock turbo and some people say it makes us not need a turbo timer but i dunno a glowing turbo with oil sitting in place inside of it just doesnt seem like a good idea.
"2002MY WRX TURBO COOL DOWN PROCEDURE
FHI's posistion regarding this is that it is not necessary to perform a "cool down/idling" procedure, as was recommended with past turbo models. Our current 2.0L turbo engine has a far greater cooling capacity and, coupled with technology advances, makes this practice no longer necessary. This explains why information about cool down is not included in the 2002MY Impreza Owner's Manual.
The heat contained in the turbo charger will begin to vaporize the coolant at the turbo charger after the engine is stopped. This hot vapor will then enter the coolant reservoir tank which is the highest point of the coolant system. At the same time the vapor exits the turbo charger, coolant supplied from the right bank cylinder head flows into the turbo. This action cools the turbo charger down. This process will continue until the vaporizing action in the turbo charger has stopped or cooled down."
- Kean


