jspec sti or us spec sti?
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jspec sti or us spec sti?
hi everyone just a question. which would give me more power? i have a 99 2.5rs 5 spd and looking into a motor swap by next year. need answers for questions such as which type of motor and for how much will it cost to be swapped? what will be needed for an wrx or sti motor swap? looking into an sti jspec but cant find one. i did find one last time but i lost the web address. if anyone knows anything about sti jspec motors please respond. and who can do the swap on a GC8? really would like to kick some *** on the streets so any help is appreciated
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www.gruppe-s.com .. umm they have jspec crate motors for sale.. check em out.. and as far as differences ... jspec = redline 8500 .. uspec = 7000 . jspec is 2.0 L producing 280, and u can get a vf30 or vf 34. and on the usdm models, it's 2.5 L with 300hp with a vf 39
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hey man thanks for the info. i live in cali too but in Sac. do u know any where close where i can get as motor and have it swapped? i also would like to know the pricing if possible. the usdm sti motors are highly expensive and the jspec are alot cheaper. what would u recommend and for what reasons? i just need to know which one can i do more upgrades on and for cheaper so if u know i will appreciate it or if u dont know maybe point me in the direction or someone who knows. thanks again.
jasonsong007 - We can obtain either the USDM or JDM STi engines. Please check our website for pricing.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm
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http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm
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Since you live in the land of the C.A.R.B. ***** (I call them this and I'm a environmental policy graduate 
) I'd say find a USDM EJ207 or EJ257 shortblock to drop in. Keep your RS gearing (very close to Type RA) and call it a day.
Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable. I wouldn't want to deal w/the TBW set up on the EJ257.
My current set up is an EJ257 shortblock w/JDM STi Ver. III heads/intake/ECU. The Ver. III stuff is the drawback since it's a Phase 1.5 motor and there's not much available for it and if there is you have to really search for it overseas.
I definitely LOVE the torque of the EJ257 though.
My 0.02...
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) I'd say find a USDM EJ207 or EJ257 shortblock to drop in. Keep your RS gearing (very close to Type RA) and call it a day.Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable. I wouldn't want to deal w/the TBW set up on the EJ257.
My current set up is an EJ257 shortblock w/JDM STi Ver. III heads/intake/ECU. The Ver. III stuff is the drawback since it's a Phase 1.5 motor and there's not much available for it and if there is you have to really search for it overseas.
I definitely LOVE the torque of the EJ257 though.
My 0.02...
-mykr.
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Originally Posted by gruppe-s
jasonsong007 - We can obtain either the USDM or JDM STi engines. Please check our website for pricing.
http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm
Regards,
Preston
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http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subeng.htm
Regards,
Preston
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But do you guys ever carry used V7 or V8 motors, for a cheaper price? I myself am looking at one, and so is a freind of mine, but nearly 9k for a new motor is a bit steep for either of our budgets, especally w/o a ECU, Turbo, Intercooler, and especally the harness. It probably is a good price for a *brand* new motor, but do you have any offerings for those of us who can only get a hold of something used?
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you might want to be carfull with the 2.5 rs trany they suck i went through two of them already the sincros went out both times so i went with the 2.2 turbo legacy tranny i have had no problems with that yet.
Originally Posted by mykr
Since you live in the land of the C.A.R.B. ***** (I call them this and I'm a environmental policy graduate ) I'd say find a USDM EJ207 or EJ257 shortblock to drop in. Keep your RS gearing (very close to Type RA) and call it a day.
Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable. I wouldn't want to deal w/the TBW set up on the EJ257.
My current set up is an EJ257 shortblock w/JDM STi Ver. III heads/intake/ECU. The Ver. III stuff is the drawback since it's a Phase 1.5 motor and there's not much available for it and if there is you have to really search for it overseas.
I definitely LOVE the torque of the EJ257 though.
My 0.02...
-mykr.
) I'd say find a USDM EJ207 or EJ257 shortblock to drop in. Keep your RS gearing (very close to Type RA) and call it a day.Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable. I wouldn't want to deal w/the TBW set up on the EJ257.
My current set up is an EJ257 shortblock w/JDM STi Ver. III heads/intake/ECU. The Ver. III stuff is the drawback since it's a Phase 1.5 motor and there's not much available for it and if there is you have to really search for it overseas.
I definitely LOVE the torque of the EJ257 though.
My 0.02...
-mykr.
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Check this site out:
www.garagetuning.com
WRX engine swap into an Impreza-$5k
STi engine swap into an Impreza-$8k
Being USDM engines that are newer than your car, they will meet CARB regulations. And he's in So Cal.
www.garagetuning.com
WRX engine swap into an Impreza-$5k
STi engine swap into an Impreza-$8k
Being USDM engines that are newer than your car, they will meet CARB regulations. And he's in So Cal.
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We carry used v7 v8 motors that are complete. If you have any questions let me know. Our motors come with the turbo, intercooler, ecu, wiring and injectors.
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Originally Posted by mykr
I'd say find a USDM EJ207 or EJ257 shortblock to drop in.
Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable.
-mykr.
Personally if I was to do my swap over again I would have done a USDM EJ207 w/every bolt on emaginable.
-mykr.
No such thing as a USDM EJ207...our STi blocks are the EJ257s.
Also, look into www.LICMotorsports.com They do 50 state smog legal swaps, JDM or USDM, you choose, although pricing might choose for you. They are also in the North SF Bay Area, so fairly close to you in Sac.
As far as power, you will have to push he 2.0L farther to get the torque numbers the 2.5Ls will put out, BUT, the JDM 2.0Ls are extremely impressive from the factory. The Ver. 7 EJ207 with its forged internals from the factory, as well as the AVCS(USDM EJ257s have as well) but the Ver. 7's have seen 24psi on pump gas with no problems, and 30psi on race gas. Then, there is the higher redline like mentioned above...the JDM STi's rev to 8,000, and the Spec C's to 8,500rpm.
I personally went the JDM route with a Ver. 7 EJ207. It isnt int the car just yet, but I have done plenty of research and am very happy with my choice, and its not even in yet. International B here on the forum has the same engine I do, and at ATP in San Jose, put down 250whp on 96 octane with a turbo back, no tuning, stock JDM ECU.
I got my front clip from FLI. Great guys, Miles and Ryan. Very willing to help you out and get you what you need. Bought my parts from FLI, LIC is doin the work
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hey endlesswaltz thanks for the link and info. i would love for LIC to do the swap but 8500+ is ALOT of money. i mean basically the labor is whats costing so much. i can find a WRX motor for 2K but labor is 3300+ thats gonna cost me 5K. i think i found it for cheaper elsewhere but im not sure. and for that amount of money, id have to pay off my car first lol. but im saving up for it. maybe just to get the motor first only then save up for the install. i like the LIC bc its close by. i was thinking JDM Sti but who knows. might be too hard to make it legal here in cali.
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Smog is no prob man, Im living in Novato and my car will be registered no problem...LIC can do it for you. I will PM you with details if you like, just let me know. Adam has worked on 3 JDM swaps so far including a Ver. 7 Spec C, all three passed no problem, state ref smog at that.
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endless. u know where they can do the swap for cheaper?? i mean thats alotta money for a swap. i was looking to spend maybe the most is 4K. i was wondering if Garage Tuning will guarantee it smog legal and make sure it runs for 5K cas if they do im prolly going to them. the other guys are charging wayyyy too much. id rather go there and how would i make it smog legal? i know i have to get it refd at some highway patrol place but i dont know. im still clueless when it comes to motors. any help will help