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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bemani
I think it is justified to say that it is a 'weak *** gto'. I've seen tv footage of the gto running with some Japanese cars, the Japanese cars pull off way better drifts than that car.
If you honestly think that drifting is all car, then i feel bad for you. I don't know too m uch about rhys, but from what i do know, his background is mostly rally in the recent years, whereas the other competitors have had years of practice in machines that are tuned over the course their careers.

I'm no fan of the GTO myself, but to have a car that is competition capable and for him to be able to get a few decent drifts off in a car that he has probably had only a few dozen hours of practice in max, that i can appreciate.

This bashing in him is a bit unfair, its like pitting a veteran locksmith with his own custom pick set and a newbie that learned out of a pamphlet with a set of store bought picks........maybe his initial outting wasn't too impressive, but at least thats more companies getting in to the drift scene. As much as you guys may dislike domestics, without them the japanese have nothing to brag about, because without lots of competitors, companies tend to sit on their laurels and the people that are hurt most in the end is us, the consumers.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Opinions are like... umm well you know how it goes! I have one myself, so I shared it. It stinks huh? hahah Im just waiting for a Subaru drift car!!!!
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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You really need to know what you are talking about before you say something. The GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro built in Australia, so it's not an American car.

The really silly thing is saying drift cars need to be imports, why? A Mustang, Viper, Camaro, or god forbid a GTO make awesome drift cars. Whats better than a rear drive, V8 or V10 with monster amounts of torque for sliding the rear end. I have driven a GTO and it is seriously quick and will slide the rearend with just a dab of the throttle but thats what 350 lbft of torque will do.

Your right opinions are like you know what. And as far as I'm concerned drtifting is stupid. It doesn't matter if you do it in an import or and American car.



Originally Posted by Bugout
I like the whole show really, well atleast the part I caught. I didnt see the whole thing. And ya to build a car that quick is impresive to say the least but lets just clear this up by saying I thought I herd the host say Rhys was reppin the Americans, but I could have got it confused with the APC dudes. But really does it matter, THE GTO is still AMerican, WHOA I just thought of something though, I do have respect for the Focus rally car, DOOAAHHH! Anyway I will stand by my statement and say NO TO THE GTO, YO!!
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugout
Opinions are like... umm well you know how it goes! I have one myself, so I shared it. It stinks huh? hahah Im just waiting for a Subaru drift car!!!!
There will not be a AWD drift car on pavement it just has too much grip and control.

I suppose you could do the cusco race car route and make it rwd though.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Its probably true. I don't know of another sport that uses as many tires as drifting. Even nascar is out of the picture with those runs.

I guess drag racing is close
Rallying. Stacks and stacks just tossed out after a stage.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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There will not be a AWD drift car on pavement it just has too much grip and control.
That's just plain wrong. The higher speeds necessary to drift awd however does make it the more difficult drift platform.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit
That's Rhys Millen IIRC. Nothing so weak *** about him. Isn't he from NZ?
yes, that's where he's from.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by serrano
That's just plain wrong. The higher speeds necessary to drift awd however does make it the more difficult drift platform.
If you can point out an awd drift car i will retract my statement. and dirt tracks do not count.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
If you can point out an awd drift car i will retract my statement. and dirt tracks do not count.
Pick up any Option video with the JUN Hyper Lemon EVO V to see some awd drifting.

AWD has been banned from D1GP, as it has been in almost all motorsports. Coincidentally enough Rhys Millen, before his GTO, drove an EVO VII at D1GPs first event of 2003 before being forced to drive his rwd Supra for the 2nd event.

And outside of the professional leagues there's a grip of awd drifters. EVOs, Skylines, etc.

So yes it's very possible to drift an awd car, just not professionally under the current rulesets, and not because the cars aren't capable.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by serrano
Pick up any Option video with the JUN Hyper Lemon EVO V to see some awd drifting.

AWD has been banned from D1GP, as it has been in almost all motorsports. Coincidentally enough Rhys Millen, before his GTO, drove an EVO VII at D1GPs first event of 2003 before being forced to drive his rwd Supra for the 2nd event.

And outside of the professional leagues there's a grip of awd drifters. EVOs, Skylines, etc.

So yes it's very possible to drift an awd car, just not professionally under the current rulesets, and not because the cars aren't capable.
But it says its " JUN HYPER LEMON EVO V was developed in order to run a circuit fastest. " a track car not a drifter. Sure you can drift a lil around the corners but the goal is to prolong the drift in a nice smooth long line and awd doesn't really lend itself to that well.

It surely has the power if anything they should modify and make it rwd for the comps.
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
If you can point out an awd drift car i will retract my statement. and dirt tracks do not count.
http://www.yokomousa.com/newproducts...p-fc3s_300.jpg

As posted above, Rhys used to drift a Evo last year.

Stop hating on Domestic Iron. I don't drive a domestic, but in terms of cheap power, the Big Three are tough to beat. give me one good reason why a IRS Cobra on a serious diet wouldn't be competitive...

...And another thing IIRC there are no Japanese makers supporting D1, least of all here, so if Chrylser offered you half a mill to prep & drift a Crossfire, you would decline the offer? 'Cuz Rhys didn't...
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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If it was me i wouldn't be using awd for a drift car you'd have to take the corners alot faster i think to get the drift you want. It seems that its easier to maintain a drift with a rwd car and such prolly why their so often used.

Do you know if the drifter evo had any mods like conversion to rwd or such?
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugout
I wouldn't assume things if I didn't know me! Ya maybe I was a little harsh but he said in the interview his old whip used to be a supra sooo I think he is down grading just a little bit. Oh ya I dont drift anymore I used to when I had my Datsun but it became way to expensive for me, but ya, he could probably chase me like no ones business. BUT THE GTO SUCKS PERIOD! Keep it IMPORT unless its old school!
Keep up the lame attitude and the dudes passing you in their Pontiacs will not care about what you think of them or their rides! Rhys Millen is a veteran rally driver and runs a tuner shop...that gives him more street cred than most could ever dream of! There are all kinds of cars and all kinds of drivers, really no need to knock em unless they give you a hard time or drive like S***!
Old Jul 30, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Rhys Evo was AWD - I'm pretty sure it was his rally car as well (he has competed in SCCA ProRally for the last few yrs).





Go on, be a man(or woman) of your words - retract your statement... p)

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EsoterikWRX
Rhys Evo was AWD - I'm pretty sure it was his rally car as well (he has competed in SCCA ProRally for the last few yrs).





Go on, be a man(or woman) of your words - retract your statement...p)
heh my name isn't femine but besides the obvious insults i will retract my statement



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