Nope, but can you show me otherwise?

 

I see, what I wanted to get accross is that overall reliability is a blanket statement. Most people know that DSM and other Mitsus have had tons of problems. On the other hand there's still plenty of them on the road.

You can say Subaru > Mitsubishi in the reliability department, in fact, I'll never own a Mitsu because of their questionable build quality. But it also doesn't mean that you can't drive a Mitsu for 100K miles with no problems either. You can't guaranty that car A will break before car B.

 

some one got me !


as for my second rant I just did not like the Suby bashing on our forums there was no good reason for what I typed other than my loyalty for my Subaru’s which I explained in my first rant

I think like all cars there is a place for it Mazda would not have made the car if there was not a market, do I think this market is the same as ours....no as it stands the WRX is still on its own the you cant group it with the EVO due to the horse power and price difference there is the Mazdaspeed 6 but that is to large of a car then there is the BMW 330Xi same size but double the price do you get where I am going
As for the MS3 it has a car in its price range that it can be directly rated against and it’s not a Subaru it’s a Dodge caliber SRT-4 the price and size drive train and even the shape are roughly the same
I just think the mag's should do what there suppose to do and that is honestly compare cars in the same class and give you an unbiast opinion to help the consumer buy the car that is right for them, because you know no one can trust a dealership

 

But your making an assumption that car buyers looking at the MS3 are not going to consider the WRX. They are both in the same arena as far as performance, size, price, and buyers market. It would be silly not to compare them. There should be plenty of people that are seriously considering buying one of those cars. Those people should find that article somewhat helpful in making there decission. It may have even introduced the idea of the Mazdaspeed to those who didn't consider that car.

 

I don't think most people buying a car are going to base their decision just off of a magazine. I'm sure people would still look into the WRX and realize that there are other trim models and what not. Plus I'd hope most people would realize that you're basically getting some opinion and some fact when you read any article like that. Hell, if they're dumb enough to spend 25k based on a magazine article, then they should go buy that Mazda.

 

Mazda makes great "sports" cars? Are you kidding??- With the exception of the 2nd and 3rd Gen RX7's they don't make any "sports" car.

 

What would cause you to post such an ignorant statement?

Not sure if this was an honest statement or if you're just trying to make people laugh. Do these cars ring any bells for you?

Miata/MX5
Mazdaspeed 3
Mazdaspeed Protoge'
Mazdaspeed 6
RX-8
Cosmo

Not every car requires lots of power and rear wheel drive to be a "sports" car. In fact, some of those on that list are more of a pure sports car than any Impreza.


Edit: Your last car was a pony, I can see now why you have a twisted view of what a sports car is/should be. When Ford tunes any of their cars at Laguna Seca please let me know. I'm sure they have full access being that they are owner/partners with Mazda.

 

True. I think people forget about the 787B that won LeMans, and then the rotary was banned.

However, I don't see any MazdaSpeed car as a sports car. Maybe "sporting" cars, but surely not sports cars. The last generation RX7 was a sports car.

 

I agree. Only the Miata is a true "sports car." Sticking the word "speed" on the Mazda does not make it a sports car, a car purpose-built for high-level driving and nothing else. A Porsche Carrera is a sports car. A Mazda 3 is not.

 

Meh, so I went overboard. But the FD3 was not Mazda's one and only good sports car. And most of their line up consists of "sporty" hatches/sedans or they at least come with the option.

 

How is it possible to prove you wrong. You have no data or even an arguement to be proven wrong.

 

Yet people continue to argue with me. Irony?

However, I made the statement before I learned that the Mitsu AYC rear differential never made it to the US models.

 

Arguing this type of topic is subjective. There would be arguments to each side, but in the end what one person prefers about one system could be the same reason another driver likes it.

Anyway, what type of data would be used to single out the AWD system of each car and not have it biased by other aspects of the car?

 

My original point still stands, ppl who let them selves and their shrunken ***** egos get hurt by these reviews are just weak IMHO.

Ed