got reviews from both Car and Driver and Road and Track today..

damn.. it's fast!


R&T
dump clutch at 6500 rpm 0-60 5.1 sec.
1/4 mile 13.8@ 101.5 mph

skidpad . 97 G
Vette territory ... !!
slalom 68.7 mph


C&D was a Estimated
@ 0-60 5.4
14.2 @ 98


top speed 155

Handling : "excellent turn in and feels nimble"



man.....
can't wait for STi stats!!!

plus RSX making a FP version.. compete w/ WRX?

got me excite w/ these issues..

 

ROTFLOL Car and Driver must be employing Senior Citizens to do their test drives!!! If they listed their 60ft times we would all laugh at them so hard I dont' think we could read another C&D article and give it any kind of weight!!! 14.2 @ 98??? Was that like a 2.4 60ft time or worse???

R&T can't drive for shizzle either!!! As was discussed on the EVO board, a 101.5 trap is good for at least mid 13s and can go low 13s with an excellent driver.

96 mph trap is usually good for breaking into the 13s with DSMs/WRXs and I "assume" just about any comparable AWD car with similar weight as these cars.

 

It says "estimated," as in, "We haven't actually run it through our battery of tests yet but based on our first driving impressions and manufacturer data, this is what we think it will do."

 

LOL, well I think Miss Cleo has a better shot at "estimating" 1/4 times than C&D does!

 

Heh, looks like it. Even Road and Track got a 5.1/13.8 out of it, and they tend to have the slowest track times of any of the mags out there. I bet Motor Trend gets it down to 13.5.

 

true,

i think R & T isn't very fast.

but they got exclusive hands on the Evo for this month..

to turboniam:C&D didn't get a chance to Dump @ high rev..

well.

thats why i said it's faster than i expected..

prolly hit mid 13s by next month..

plus it's a 5 speed..

but quarter mile isn't everything..

.97 G :O !!
they did claim "close to 1 G" at LA debut.. but still. scary..

 

further more..

lets imagine what a slightly modded STi will do...

i am pissin on myself...

j/k

but i think i ll be scared of my future STi for a long time..

 

I am laughing alright. Everytime I see what the 2.2L Evo is doing to 2 of Juns 2.5 L Rexs. Ohhh the pain and discomfort of watching the Evo hand the rex its butt.

 

thats nothing, if it is anything like the EVO VII, it should be able to do 13 flat or even 12.8.....the stock VII's can do 12.8 with a great driver. I think keeping it 2 litre for rally is good and able to hit 5 flat or even sub 5 uarter mile is sick.......I honestly think the STI is a cheat...the EVO still has the 2 liter motor and the STI had to use a rally illegal motor to beat the EVO, thats sad and disappointing....keep it 2 liter! keep it a solid competition.

 

Rally-illegal? Huh? Is there any reason why the new STi can't run in open class?

Ever hear of the 22B?

The Evo VIII is nothing like the VII, at least not in America, where emissions laws make it impossible to produce the output ("published" figures notwithstanding) of the JDM Evo with a 2.0L motor.

At first I was a little stunned at the 2.5 STi. But it seems Subaru got the message that we're tired of getting watered-down versions of the cars they get back home in Japan. I'm glad they decided to bring us a car that performs the way it was intended to perform, even if that means breaking with tradition and bumping the displacement.

If you wanted a watered-down 2.0, the Mitsu dealer is down the road. I'm saving up for an STi, thanks.

 

well the world rally set the motors to 2.0 liter limit so thats the reason why the EVO has never been changed and the fact that subaru had to beef up the motor to 2.5 means they couldnt compete with the EVO in a 2.0 liter or less hp battle..........

obviously the EVO VIII ISNT watered down, you guys are on crack if it has been watered down....271 compared to 276 is just a slight decrease, "water downed" is a term i wold expect subaru owners would call the EVO so they would feel the STI is a superior car. In my opinion the STI looks much nicer, but if i wanter a strictly performance machine....i would go with the EVO for sure hands down....but the front is alittle ugly......and it is in fact, very close to the VII in comparison, just 5 less hp and minor changes all around.....and god, you have to love the manual intercooler watersprayers.

by the way, the STI is going to be way overpriced....even more so then the EVO. but whatever, im not on either side, i love STI's and EVO's both.