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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Did it say what DCCD setting they were running it at?
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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What about just adding a thicker rear sway bar like all of us modded subies?
Old Jan 5, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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i aggree, they need to add a quicker steering rack and all would be good in teh STI, The Evo is low in HP compared stock for stock between and STI and itself. yet an Evo for some reason has some sort of uncanny knack for gaining huge amounts of horsepower with just bolt ons, this i believe is becuase it uses a cast iron block, where the STI comes in with a more balanced chassis and a lighter bigger 2.5 block...

so i guess the decision is more so, which car has more potential...

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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And so does the saga continue. Subaru seems to be playing to a larger demographic than Mitsubishi. Although the MR now has softer damping in its specific Bilsteins, they have made tweaks that offer tangible gains in its overall performance such as the six-speed gearbox and the active center diff. Although the STi now sports a helical limited slip, aluminum rear links, larger rear bar; it still does not compare to the Spec C. The MR is an answer to the Spec C on their home turf, while the USDM STi is still what it is...Subaru's perception of what the Americans want in their STi, mainly power first (hence the 2.5 egine size). If you read the comparison of the STi Spec C and the EVO FQ300 in the 01/05 Sport Compact Car magazine, you realize that the Spec C is an altogether different animal from the STi. Because of its suspension geometry, the car does not understeer. The handling was so good that it was that much better than the EVO or for that matter a Porsche 911 Turbo. I am very happy and greatful that Subaru opened the door for AWD turbo cars, I am very happy with my STi. But it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too...a Spec C complete with air-conditioning for the U. S., I can only wish.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Wouldn't it also be true that if subaru made all those improvements that the price of said STI would go from 31-33k up to 35-37k?

Do you think that would push the STI out of the market their trying to hit?
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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how about this... as an owner, are you satisfied with your STi? magazine articles are just somebody elses opinion, and that's it.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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I still think that a magazine co. that takes a perfectly good car and spray paints it black is B.S. and I will never buy the Magazine again, They "sport compact" have something against the STi, and so does "car and driver". They are getting a little something under the table.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mw1029h
I still think that a magazine co. that takes a perfectly good car and spray paints it black is B.S. and I will never buy the Magazine again, They "sport compact" have something against the STi, and so does "car and driver". They are getting a little something under the table.

This cracks me up .... I hope they arent .. I hope they are being as Honest as possible ... because I wouldnt want to have this same CRAP happen in reverse.. for them to take something under the table for the STi and against the EVO...



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