2005 Evolution MR?
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Originally Posted by godai
When was the last time you checked? I just looked at the 2004 results and they're in last place. 2003 they didn't race and I don't think they're racing next year either.
Ever thought of taking the entire time Evo has ran in rallies?? No ok just a thought. That and besides the fact that you said nothing about overall performance of the cars in general. Going fast in a straight line is one thing but right out of the box the STi still chases the Evo around the track.
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Originally Posted by JspecGC8
Ever thought of taking the entire time Evo has ran in rallies?? No ok just a thought. That and besides the fact that you said nothing about overall performance of the cars in general. Going fast in a straight line is one thing but right out of the box the STi still chases the Evo around the track.
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Respect!!!!-bone324
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There's a reason the EVO isn't in the WRC anymore... cuz it's a bucket!!!
I'd love to have an EVO... but I just can't bring myself to buy a Mitsu... Mitsu of america = morons that need to fall into a volcano.
I'd love to have an EVO... but I just can't bring myself to buy a Mitsu... Mitsu of america = morons that need to fall into a volcano.
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Originally Posted by gdogg
the MR is a road carving beast. but i still hold favor to the STi. Mitsubishi has yet to prove its supremacy where it counts- in 2 areas - 1st WRC . . . second ... sales.
we shall see just how much longer mitsubishi can hold on on its financial woes while subaru sales continue to skyrocket every year.
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we shall see just how much longer mitsubishi can hold on on its financial woes while subaru sales continue to skyrocket every year.
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Originally Posted by HomerJay
The dissapointing part of the MR is you don't get a big HP gains, so you're basically paying for the ACD. I don't know what the final HP rating is but I don't think it will be 300HP. The torque should be better though. And yes the evo is faster than the STI in most categories. except maybe 0-60, but since you can reach 60 in second on the evo, you save 0.5 seconds on shift time.
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The '05 STi seems to be detuned a bit from the '04s.
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Originally Posted by bone324
What? What does respect have to do with anything? Hey, I respect Mitsu for their successes and for bringing the Evo here. I think it's a great car. I respect Toyota and all the others who have produced great cars inspired by the WRC. Respect doesn't sell cars. And all the respect in the world will not create a winning WRC team, as proven by Mitsubishi for the past 3 years!
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either way both are good cars it just depends on what you want...however I will say I do see many more STI's than EVO's around here. I've seen 5 evo's here and well at least 3 times as many STI's running around..
Mitsu has been having a few bad years in WRC and have now droped out..Hell did they even run in the ralley japan? I don't remember even if it was on last weekend.. I do agree what matters is what the word is on the street when its driven by the average owner/ auto nut who actually drive them..(unless you own an evo and get your crap voided when the car is used for what it was made for)...
I will say that the subaru design should still have a 2 door in the line up..this 4 door stuff isn't for me.
JspecGC8....nice to see another misawa person..so how do you like J-draw? or are they still playing booty music?...No I'm not there anymore. PM me I need a phone number for someone that works on base.
Mitsu has been having a few bad years in WRC and have now droped out..Hell did they even run in the ralley japan? I don't remember even if it was on last weekend.. I do agree what matters is what the word is on the street when its driven by the average owner/ auto nut who actually drive them..(unless you own an evo and get your crap voided when the car is used for what it was made for)...
I will say that the subaru design should still have a 2 door in the line up..this 4 door stuff isn't for me.
JspecGC8....nice to see another misawa person..so how do you like J-draw? or are they still playing booty music?...No I'm not there anymore. PM me I need a phone number for someone that works on base.
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Originally Posted by Murf
either way both are good cars it just depends on what you want...however I will say I do see many more STI's than EVO's around here. I've seen 5 evo's here and well at least 3 times as many STI's running around..
Mitsu has been having a few bad years in WRC and have now droped out..Hell did they even run in the ralley japan? I don't remember even if it was on last weekend.. I do agree what matters is what the word is on the street when its driven by the average owner/ auto nut who actually drive them..(unless you own an evo and get your crap voided when the car is used for what it was made for)...
I will say that the subaru design should still have a 2 door in the line up..this 4 door stuff isn't for me.
JspecGC8....nice to see another misawa person..so how do you like J-draw? or are they still playing booty music?...No I'm not there anymore. PM me I need a phone number for someone that works on base.
Mitsu has been having a few bad years in WRC and have now droped out..Hell did they even run in the ralley japan? I don't remember even if it was on last weekend.. I do agree what matters is what the word is on the street when its driven by the average owner/ auto nut who actually drive them..(unless you own an evo and get your crap voided when the car is used for what it was made for)...
I will say that the subaru design should still have a 2 door in the line up..this 4 door stuff isn't for me.
JspecGC8....nice to see another misawa person..so how do you like J-draw? or are they still playing booty music?...No I'm not there anymore. PM me I need a phone number for someone that works on base.
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Originally Posted by JspecGC8
1.Funny last time I checked the Evo has done well in WRC. Also if you have not seen it you chould check out the comparison of the Evos and STis on a track.
2.Subaru went through the same thing Mitsu is going through now the only difference is Subaru fixed their problems right the first time where as Mitsu didn't!!!
2.Subaru went through the same thing Mitsu is going through now the only difference is Subaru fixed their problems right the first time where as Mitsu didn't!!!
2.in terms of problems i'd have to say that Subaru has never suffered the tarnish of Mitsubishi. and never has Subaru had a Corporate cover-up(where the president of the company is directly responsible) like Mitsu--->Mitsubishi Problems
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Mitsubishi has been plagued by a series of recalls since it admitted four years ago it had systematically hidden auto defects and announced a massive recall. 6/11/04
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sorry, a little off subject
but i think it applies here if the Spec C ever hits our shores...
from my other thread - MR versus Spec C
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Originally Posted by sneezerboi
Subarus have better build quality than Mitsubishi as well as a better reliability record. With performance numbers being so close, the driver will account for most of the difference. Being that most drivers out there won't extrace the maximum performance of either car, we may as well choose which one is more aesthetically pleasing.
oh, and btw, the Forester XT owns the Endeavor!
oh, and btw, the Forester XT owns the Endeavor!
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