your brake setup for track?

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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your brake setup for track?

Since I am thinking about going to the track and my pads are wearing out, I think it's a good idea to do a brake job.

The car is pumping out around 240whp with subaru 4pots in front and stock rear.

So......What should I get? and where should I get them from?

I need your opinions on pads , SS lines, fluid and anything else that you think I should get.

Should I also do the rear H6 upgrade at the same time?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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well, unless i can get some money some how i think ill be tracking with stock brakes Pads, ss lines and fluid is what im going to shoot for, seems like a good combo.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I recommend SS lines, a good fluid - fully flushed and bled (ATE, Motul) and Porterfield R4-S brake pads. If you start getting more serious and feel you need it, then do the H6 upgrade.

My first time in my WRX at Laguna on stock pads showed me I shouldn't have been out there with stock pads.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Not only am i on stock brakes, but theres also a vf34 and coilovers in there
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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a good ss brake lines and some motul fluids should help alot. Then pads. I've got a buddy who ziptied his stock lines for a cheap alternative to SS lines.

I've always been fine on stock pads when i tracked, and never got to track the endless pads before is old the sti.

I've got tarox 6 brakes on the celica, but haven't tested them yet.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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ss, motul, and axxis ulitmates for me. There'll be a vf34 in there as well. I may get better pads , though since I'll be in the novice group I've been told that my current set up is ok for now.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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For track work on stock sized rotors, you definitely want at least Motul 600 brake fluid and full-on track pads for the front. You can get away with sport pads for the rear and an H6 upgrade would be a good idea. Something like Carbotech XP9 for the front and Bobcat for the rear. Then you'd switch out the fronts to regular sport pads after the trackday. SS lines are nice, but not a necessity. If you're planning to flush your brake fluid, you might as well swap to SS lines at the same time.

I went through this entire ordeal before I ended up with Stoptech big brakes.

There's a Thanksgiving weekend track event at Thunderhill that I plan to go to. It's a great deal at $190 for one day and $350 for two days. The lady that's organizing it is a SpecMiata racer and you get more than the average amount of track time. You actually get almost 3 hours of track time, while everyone else usually has just 2 hours. I've driven with them for more than 6 trackevents and every single one has been a blast.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Akira-R
I've got a buddy who ziptied his stock lines for a cheap alternative to SS lines.
How does that work? Did he just line the whole rubber line with zipties so the lines wouldn't bulge under hard braking? Did this make a noticable difference?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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I've got tarox 6 brakes on the celica, but haven't tested them yet.
I have, and trust me they will pull your face off.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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team-racing is superb racing club

i've been tracking with them for a while now
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by slvrsubywgn
How does that work? Did he just line the whole rubber line with zipties so the lines wouldn't bulge under hard braking? Did this make a noticable difference?
He lined the lines with the thicker zipties. He likes it, but mainly auto-x's so not too much braking compared to track. And yes, the main reason was to keep the lines from expanding under pressure. I can't see it not working really unless you ziptie it waaaay too tight and pinch the lines.
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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I'll echo what has already been said. If you're a novice to low intermediate tracker then Porterfield R4S will be a great all around pad for track and street. Hawk HP+ and Ferodo DS2500 are also decent. Good fluid like Motul RBF600 or Ate Super Blue is a given. Don't forget to bleed your brakes well before you go. SS lines will help pedal feel and help to keep your lines from expanding a lot once your fluid heats up.

Here's my setup:



GD 2pc. slotted/vaned rotors
Endless CC-X carbon ceramic pads
Goodridge SS lines
Ate Super Blue Fluid

It works well for the track but the pedal feel still isn't consistant. I'm convinced there is something wrong with the STi master cylinder. I'm going to try a Cusco Master Cylinder brace next but I'm not convinced this will do anything to fix the problem.

-Geoff
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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I use Motul RBF 600 with STi lines and stock pads. Pretty good but I'm getting Endless pads by months end.
Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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motul fluid is destroying people's seals, just so you know

i'd stick to ate



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