Xylene @ Home Depot
04-02-2003, 11:57 AM
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Xylene @ Home Depot
I found gallon cans of Xylene (117) at Home Depot in DC/Colma for just under $10/gal.
Smooooth.
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Smooooth.
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04-02-2003, 02:46 PM
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Hi All,
I've heard the strangest thing from some boys back in the East Coast ... mothballs = octane booster. Scarey, huh?
From what i've been seeing a 2 octane point (full point, none of this tenth of a point crap) increase is as much as the ECU will correct for on its own. Though it appears to be able to pull timing for as crappy as the gas you put in it.
To milk anymore performance out of octane boosting, it would appear you will need to do some other engine management to get more gain.
FYI - i've been buying 100 octane unleaded for about $4 per gallon, 110 leaded for $4 per gallon and 118 leaded for $7 per gallon.
Are you guys adding ATF for the lubricant additive or any sort of engine cleaner along with the Xylene mix? Someone else told me that the vaporization point of xylene is considerably higher than toulene (and some east coast boys are poking holes in the exhaust to blow on the tank to preheat the mixture for better vaporization behavior - even scarey information ... stupid IMHO).
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I've heard the strangest thing from some boys back in the East Coast ... mothballs = octane booster. Scarey, huh?
From what i've been seeing a 2 octane point (full point, none of this tenth of a point crap) increase is as much as the ECU will correct for on its own. Though it appears to be able to pull timing for as crappy as the gas you put in it.
To milk anymore performance out of octane boosting, it would appear you will need to do some other engine management to get more gain.
FYI - i've been buying 100 octane unleaded for about $4 per gallon, 110 leaded for $4 per gallon and 118 leaded for $7 per gallon.
Are you guys adding ATF for the lubricant additive or any sort of engine cleaner along with the Xylene mix? Someone else told me that the vaporization point of xylene is considerably higher than toulene (and some east coast boys are poking holes in the exhaust to blow on the tank to preheat the mixture for better vaporization behavior - even scarey information ... stupid IMHO).
Steve
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I tried 2 gal of toluene and 7.5oz of ATF this weekend. It mixed to around 94 octane. It didn't seem as smooth as 100 octane race gas mixed to 94 octane. The race gas just seemed like it wanted to pull more... 
04-02-2003, 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by mexicanpizza
Before I go to the drag strip...I put a bunch of marshmallows in my gas tank...they boost octane too!
Before I go to the drag strip...I put a bunch of marshmallows in my gas tank...they boost octane too!
04-03-2003, 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
Yeah, it's only like $6.50 at Sherwin Williams. Just FYI.
Yeah, it's only like $6.50 at Sherwin Williams. Just FYI.
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p.s. I'm not questioning your honesty... I just want MORE boooost (hence the screen name
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Originally posted by mmboost
Really? I went to the S-W in Emeryville a few months ago and a gallon of Toluene was already $8.45/gal. I would think Xylene would be more expensive. Is my thinking backwards? Is your price recent? Which S-W was this?
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p.s. I'm not questioning your honesty... I just want MORE boooost (hence the screen name )
Really? I went to the S-W in Emeryville a few months ago and a gallon of Toluene was already $8.45/gal. I would think Xylene would be more expensive. Is my thinking backwards? Is your price recent? Which S-W was this?
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Originally posted by CupertinoSteve
Hi All,
I've heard the strangest thing from some boys back in the East Coast ... mothballs = octane booster. Scarey, huh?
Are you guys adding ATF for the lubricant additive or any sort of engine cleaner along with the Xylene mix?
Someone else told me that the vaporization point of xylene is considerably higher than toulene
Steve
Hi All,
I've heard the strangest thing from some boys back in the East Coast ... mothballs = octane booster. Scarey, huh?
Are you guys adding ATF for the lubricant additive or any sort of engine cleaner along with the Xylene mix?
Someone else told me that the vaporization point of xylene is considerably higher than toulene
Steve
This is only the second time I am using octane boosting. First I used toluene and loved it. Now Xylene (its all Home Despot had). I figure twice might not be enough to destroy parts... especially since it wont sit too long at the rate I use up gas
... but then, what do I know? If I do it again I will use the lubes, etc.As far as vaporization, I could swear as I read all printing on the entire can of Xylene before I bought it, it said that Xylene (for the purposes of paint thinning or removal) was just like Toluene except that it evaporated slower. I could swear that's what it said... I poured the cans in the tank in the Home Despot parking lot
so I don't have them for reference at the moment.jason
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Originally posted by mmboost
Using moth-anyting is a BAD idea. Mothballs (naphthalene) has a bad C-to-H ratio which lends to carbon deposits. Moth "crystals" (paradichlorobenzene), is like cyclohexane with two H atoms replaced with Chlorine atoms.... 6C 4H 2Cl ...guess what one of the by products of combustion are? HCl ... yep Hydrchrloric Acid. That's gotta be no fun for you car. Carbon deposits or acid.
This is only the second time I am using octane boosting. First I used toluene and loved it. Now Xylene (its all Home Despot had). I figure twice might not be enough to destroy parts... especially since it wont sit too long at the rate I use up gas ... but then, what do I know? If I do it again I will use the lubes, etc.
As far as vaporization, I could swear as I read all printing on the entire can of Xylene before I bought it, it said that Xylene (for the purposes of paint thinning or removal) was just like Toluene except that it evaporated slower. I could swear that's what it said... I poured the cans in the tank in the Home Despot parking lot so I don't have them for reference at the moment.
jason
Using moth-anyting is a BAD idea. Mothballs (naphthalene) has a bad C-to-H ratio which lends to carbon deposits. Moth "crystals" (paradichlorobenzene), is like cyclohexane with two H atoms replaced with Chlorine atoms.... 6C 4H 2Cl ...guess what one of the by products of combustion are? HCl ... yep Hydrchrloric Acid. That's gotta be no fun for you car. Carbon deposits or acid.
This is only the second time I am using octane boosting. First I used toluene and loved it. Now Xylene (its all Home Despot had). I figure twice might not be enough to destroy parts... especially since it wont sit too long at the rate I use up gas
... but then, what do I know? If I do it again I will use the lubes, etc.As far as vaporization, I could swear as I read all printing on the entire can of Xylene before I bought it, it said that Xylene (for the purposes of paint thinning or removal) was just like Toluene except that it evaporated slower. I could swear that's what it said... I poured the cans in the tank in the Home Despot parking lot
so I don't have them for reference at the moment.jason
and yeah, when i was working out the molecular equations in my head, i saw those pesky HCl molecules floating around, but i just figured i would drive around and melt off the front bumpers of people who drive too close.
on second thought, i wonder what HCl would do to an internal combustion engine? does temperature have any effects on the rate at which HCl eats away metal?
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