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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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A guy at work offered me his RX7 FC convertable for free

i said no thanks
That was dumb. Those are seriously nice cars and came with BBS wheels as well. Plus, no roof - better chance of a fit right?? Haha..
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Rotaries are expensive to replace and you can't really rebuild one at home. Once the case is worn you may as well get a new one, new engines aren't cheap. As mentioned above, they are not good engines for boost.

Miatas are much cheaper to run. If you want to drift in one, stock power isn't going to be enough but boosting a Miata is relatively easy and cheap (engine is already built for boost and transmission is quite strong).

I love GSL-SEs, I'd rock one. I've owned 3 first-gen RX-7s, they are fun cars.

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So as long as I don't boost it, it should be fine? but at the same time if it breaks down, im screwed? sounds like a headahce... i'd like a reliable rwx.

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Ha! Good luck working on one. Somehow they managed to build this car with the engine being larger than the engine bay.

Also, good luck finding one that isn't all riced out, has 150K miles, just beat to hell, or isn't an 4 spd auto.
if i found a clean one of those, i'd swoop.

guess its miata or 240sx then.
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Pretty much. Keep in mind: rotaties eat oil by design, that's how they work. This may make emission testing harder to comply with.

Miata stock engine is good for 300HP, transmission is about the same. I've bought a good spare engine (with everything attached to it -- alternator, fuel injection stuff, flywheel, exhaust -- everything) for $200 and 2 trannies for $150 - $200 each. For info on boosting a Miata, go here and here.

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I sold my 2000 2.5RS for $2,500 with a ton of mods, 140k miles IIRC. You can find one if you look around and are patient (use the boards)
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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^^Not a good drift car.

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^^Not a good drift car.

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Yeah, but if you read his original post you'd see that he wants a 2.5RS but can't afford one which is why he's after an older RWD car
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by stan_t
Rotaries are expensive to replace and you can't really rebuild one at home. Once the case is worn you may as well get a new one, new engines aren't cheap. As mentioned above, they are not good engines for boost.

Miatas are much cheaper to run. If you want to drift in one, stock power isn't going to be enough but boosting a Miata is relatively easy and cheap (engine is already built for boost and transmission is quite strong).

I love GSL-SEs, I'd rock one. I've owned 3 first-gen RX-7s, they are fun cars.

Stan

Lmao you're smoking crack. You can buy a complete 13b-t engine ecu and tranny shipped to the us cheaper than you can buy a complete STi engine or 6 speed. Not just that but you can rebuild a rotary at home. I've seen a rotary torn apart on a table and oil drum and put back together with ease.... not much to it.

However I will agree that boosting the Miata will be easier, but either way emissions is still going to be a *****. Might as well do a 5.0 or ls1 swap.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1920334027.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1918950801.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1916855059.html

Link to cheap rs/l.
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I've watched people bridge-port over a trashcan with an electric die grinder.. with success.
Is that code for something?
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by azer408
Lmao you're smoking crack.
Not really. Don't get me wrong -- I love rotaries, but RX-7 engines/transmissions/diffs are still more expensive and not as common as Miata's, which are a dime a dozen and are all over CL locally. We are talking a $2,000 car here. But yes, gen 1 or 2 RX-7 would be an awesome car to drive.

drool: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1919790258.html

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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That was dumb. Those are seriously nice cars and came with BBS wheels as well. Plus, no roof - better chance of a fit right?? Haha..
Those BBS' were freaking amazing AND lighter than the stockers!! I still want a set of those rather than the stock baloney cutters I have!!!

I have an FC N/A GX-L and though it no longer has the original rotary engine [bad apex seals and a lot of engine smoke] I still love that car.
However, the majority of mechanics I know wont touch it since rotarys can be a ***** to work on, so I had to learn to do the work myself.
I wouldn't recommend it as a DD though since they are not the greatest on fuel, a result of the Wankel constant combustion design(?), I believe.
I would look for something more fuel efficient and a slight bit more comfortable.

+1 for the GSL-SE btw....
EDIT: OH and +1 for the "eat oil" comment....it sucks but its the nature of the beast!
Just my opinion I could be wrong.

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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The way a rotary is designed, it is a point or so richer than what is necessary in order to use fuel as a chamber "coolant" which is why even RX8s have terrible mileage; it is the solution to a design problem. While I have never owned a rotary, they are certainly interesting and I have help a few friends do extensive work on their cars. Interesting always means finicky though in car speak. If it is cold, say 30ish F when you start your FC or older wankel, you will have cold start issues. Meaning the chamber will fill but no spark. This is a *****, as you have to remove the sparks to drain it before trying again. Stalling it does the same thing. My high school friend learned to drive stick in one and stalled it many times, the most memorable was stalling it during 5PM traffic on the intersection of Ashby and College. I never saw so many irate old hippies. Concerning reliability, as long as it is not boosted, it should run for a long time, but not much torque so you'd have to wring it up to higher rpms. So, as a DD, it is not the best. The interior of an FC seemed to be closer to low end Nissan quality than that of say, Honda. I see old Daily drive DA/EF interiors in much better conditions than that of 240s and B13s (but perhaps drifting rat children have something to do with that).

As a sports car, weekend track/fun car, it is definitely a feasible option but it came with now-outdated active suspension electronic BS that doesn't really do anything (AAS). As you get towards the end of the FC, they get heavier from like 2500 to 2900 lbs. So. Yeah. My .02.
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by woocabin
if i found a clean one of those, i'd swoop.

guess its miata or 240sx then.
A TT Z32 is a sketchy choice considering they are now 15-20 years old and most of them have been abused or neglected by now. I had a '92 about 8 years back, great car, great power (ecu flash w/ intake+exhaust), but it also only had 56K on the odo when I bought it. It also wasn't exactly nimble and the 4 wheel steering didn't help that. It's a great car for rolling don the highway or an occasional weekend at the strip, so it depends on what you want to use it for.
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fizay
The way a rotary is designed, it is a point or so richer than what is necessary in order to use fuel as a chamber "coolant" which is why even RX8s have terrible mileage; it is the solution to a design problem. While I have never owned a rotary, they are certainly interesting and I have help a few friends do extensive work on their cars. Interesting always means finicky though in car speak. If it is cold, say 30ish F when you start your FC or older wankel, you will have cold start issues. Meaning the chamber will fill but no spark. This is a *****, as you have to remove the sparks to drain it before trying again. Stalling it does the same thing. My high school friend learned to drive stick in one and stalled it many times, the most memorable was stalling it during 5PM traffic on the intersection of Ashby and College. I never saw so many irate old hippies. Concerning reliability, as long as it is not boosted, it should run for a long time, but not much torque so you'd have to wring it up to higher rpms. So, as a DD, it is not the best. The interior of an FC seemed to be closer to low end Nissan quality than that of say, Honda. I see old Daily drive DA/EF interiors in much better conditions than that of 240s and B13s (but perhaps drifting rat children have something to do with that).

As a sports car, weekend track/fun car, it is definitely a feasible option but it came with now-outdated active suspension electronic BS that doesn't really do anything (AAS). As you get towards the end of the FC, they get heavier from like 2500 to 2900 lbs. So. Yeah. My .02.
Mm thanks for that. pretty set on not going near rotaries. I just personally know nothing about them or how to work on them.

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I sold my 2000 2.5RS for $2,500 with a ton of mods, 140k miles IIRC. You can find one if you look around and are patient (use the boards)
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by azer408
Lmao you're smoking crack. You can buy a complete 13b-t engine ecu and tranny shipped to the us cheaper than you can buy a complete STi engine or 6 speed. Not just that but you can rebuild a rotary at home. I've seen a rotary torn apart on a table and oil drum and put back together with ease.... not much to it.

However I will agree that boosting the Miata will be easier, but either way emissions is still going to be a *****. Might as well do a 5.0 or ls1 swap.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1920334027.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1918950801.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1916855059.html

Link to cheap rs/l.
Think that middle one is Joel's.



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