View Poll Results: Who will win?
BJ (the prodigy) Penn
27
46.55%
GSP
31
53.45%
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Who are you for BJ Penn or GSP??????
01-29-2009, 03:19 PM
#16
You true fight fans see this...
Helio Gracie, the father of Gracie jiu-jitsu, is dead at the age of 95. Gracie passed in his sleep early Thursday in Itaipaiva, Rio de Janeiro, after he had been admitted to a local hospital a few days prior for stomach problems.
“He passed the way he always wanted to –- quick and fast,” said an immediate relative, who asked not to be identified. The relative said Gracie’s body would be buried on Thursday.
The youngest of Cesalina and Gastao Gracie’s eight children, he learned traditional jiu-jitsu by watching his brother, Carlos, teach it, but his small frame made it difficult for him to execute the moves. As a result, he adapted techniques to fit his limited physical ability and gave rise to modern-day Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Gracie was involved in two legendary fights. He lost to Masahiko Kimura -- a man who outweighed him by some 40 pounds -- in 1951 when Carlos threw in the towel after Kimura broke Gracie’s arm with the shoulder lock that now bears his name. Four years later, Gracie fought former student Valdemar Santana for nearly four hours before losing.
His impact on the sport of mixed martial arts was profound. His son, Rorion, was credited with developing the concept that became the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and another of his sons, Royce, won the first two UFC tournaments in 1993 and 1994. Two other sons, Rickson and Royler, also competed in MMA.
Gracie is survived by his wife Vera; his sons Rickson, Royler, Rolker, Royce, Relson, Robin and Rorion; his daughters Rerika and Ricci, as well as numerous siblings, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren.
RIP
Helio Gracie, the father of Gracie jiu-jitsu, is dead at the age of 95. Gracie passed in his sleep early Thursday in Itaipaiva, Rio de Janeiro, after he had been admitted to a local hospital a few days prior for stomach problems.
“He passed the way he always wanted to –- quick and fast,” said an immediate relative, who asked not to be identified. The relative said Gracie’s body would be buried on Thursday.
The youngest of Cesalina and Gastao Gracie’s eight children, he learned traditional jiu-jitsu by watching his brother, Carlos, teach it, but his small frame made it difficult for him to execute the moves. As a result, he adapted techniques to fit his limited physical ability and gave rise to modern-day Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Gracie was involved in two legendary fights. He lost to Masahiko Kimura -- a man who outweighed him by some 40 pounds -- in 1951 when Carlos threw in the towel after Kimura broke Gracie’s arm with the shoulder lock that now bears his name. Four years later, Gracie fought former student Valdemar Santana for nearly four hours before losing.
His impact on the sport of mixed martial arts was profound. His son, Rorion, was credited with developing the concept that became the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and another of his sons, Royce, won the first two UFC tournaments in 1993 and 1994. Two other sons, Rickson and Royler, also competed in MMA.
Gracie is survived by his wife Vera; his sons Rickson, Royler, Rolker, Royce, Relson, Robin and Rorion; his daughters Rerika and Ricci, as well as numerous siblings, nieces, nephews, and grandchildren.
RIP
01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
#21
GSP is in his prime right now. There's no way BJ Penn will win if he doesn't get the decision in the first 2 rounds. He is prone to gassing out and u all know that. If you look at the Hughes-Penn fight, BJ took way too much energy on take-down defense and look what happened to him. He got owned in the 3rd round. He takes pride in defense, but at the same time he doesn't think about the amount of energy it takes him to play defense. Even during the Penn-Sherk fight, he was tired in the 3rd round (although he did TKO Sherk with a flying knee).
As for GSP, he is well rounded, and good at everything. BJ Penn is the same, BUT his cardio is questionable.
If Penn doesn't get GSP in the first 2 rounds, GSP will win.
As for GSP, he is well rounded, and good at everything. BJ Penn is the same, BUT his cardio is questionable.
If Penn doesn't get GSP in the first 2 rounds, GSP will win.
01-29-2009, 05:21 PM
#23
GSP doesn't talk that much crap. If anything, he talks the least crap out of anybody in the UFC. He's a good guy, but they just make him talk some crap just to hype up the fights. It's not his nature to talk crap.
Just look back when him and Matt Hughes was on the Ultimate Fighter (I think GSP was a guest coach). Hughes was talking so much crap to him and about him to the fellow fighters that GSP didn't want any part of it, and ignored him. He's not the type to talk crap. And when he does, he usually backs it up.
01-29-2009, 05:23 PM
#24
Sherk is a freak of nature. That guy was still throwing out lightning quick punches even in the 3rd round. It's just too bad his arms are so short that he couldn't reach Penn.
01-29-2009, 05:32 PM
#26
Penn had a big reach advantage against Sherk and basically jabbed his way to victory (with the exception of that flying knee).
Sherk is a freak of nature. That guy was still throwing out lightning quick punches even in the 3rd round. It's just too bad his arms are so short that he couldn't reach Penn.
Sherk is a freak of nature. That guy was still throwing out lightning quick punches even in the 3rd round. It's just too bad his arms are so short that he couldn't reach Penn.
01-29-2009, 05:40 PM
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01-29-2009, 05:49 PM
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GSP all the way, that guy trains like a psycho. Shows much more respect and sportsmanship than BJ. Way more technical, way more fuel, strong, much experience.
BJ is a *****
BJ is a *****
01-29-2009, 05:51 PM
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BJ FTW!
gotta go with my boy from Hilo. its goin to be a battle though, GSP is a beast, I have alot of respect for him. BJ can take a punch though, as well giving them (damn thats bad grammer but whatever)
gotta go with my boy from Hilo. its goin to be a battle though, GSP is a beast, I have alot of respect for him. BJ can take a punch though, as well giving them (damn thats bad grammer but whatever)