What do you guys think of the Oakland-BART cop shooting?

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Jul 4, 2010 | 01:50 AM

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It's an accident made between two stupid people. Drop the racial card and move on.

Jul 4, 2010 | 07:17 AM

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Lurk is correct.

What model sig do BART cops use? The P220? P229? Those are common amongst most PD's, probably the P229...

Lets all meet in Oakland when the verdict is read and have a BAM sized meet right across the street from city hall! What do you guys think? Isn't it a great idea?!

Reports on the internet and news said P226.

Jul 4, 2010 | 09:59 AM

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Jul 6, 2010 | 05:03 PM

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death pen.

so someone else doesn't have to.

Jul 8, 2010 | 03:06 PM

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verdict rumored to be read today. watch out oakland.

Jul 8, 2010 | 03:12 PM

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verdict rumored to be read today. Watch out oakland.

4pm!!!

Jul 8, 2010 | 05:08 PM

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Hmmm, involuntary manslaughter -- 2 to 4 years.

Bye bye Oakland!

Jul 8, 2010 | 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurk

That's correct. When the Sig is in Condition 1 (round in chamber) you can fire the weapon by simply pulling the trigger. The first shot will be double action and all subsequent shots will be in single action mode.

The decock lever drops the hammer to return it to double action mode.

unless they have started with a DAO model. then it's DA all the time.

Jul 9, 2010 | 10:33 AM

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i have a simple solution to this whole issue... don't issue cops tasers.

we'd be better off as a society if half the people they taser and arrest were just out of the genepool instead.

Jul 9, 2010 | 11:24 AM

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i have a simple solution to this whole issue... don't issue cops tasers.

we'd be better off as a society if half the people they taser and arrest were just out of the genepool instead.

Agreed!

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Jul 9, 2010 | 01:08 PM

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Agreed!

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we wont have videos like this anymore though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7iyh...1&feature=fvwp

Jul 11, 2010 | 01:33 PM

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rioters should be executed on the spot, no exceptions. if you dont want to die, then dont gather.

Jul 11, 2010 | 10:03 PM

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One thing I want to know is why would the officer have used his taser on the victim when he was already face down AND handcuffed? In the video it doesn't show him doing anything to really resist... I dunno, seems fishy to me.

This is my question too, but when I read the transcripts, he didn't have handcuffs on, he was just holding his hands behind his back.

So, again, I ask, if the "troublemaker" was behaving himself, why was he going to be tased?

I suspect the officer was a bully, I am pretty certain he wasn't planning on shooting anyone, but I think it made him feel good to hurt people.

If you intention is to hurt people and you mistakenly kill someone, isn't that murder, because you were intending bodily harm?

I know a parent that I believe was sent to prison on murder 2 charges due to a fistfight over a kids ball game. He was steroid buff and beat the other father to death (roid rage). I think the sentence was murder because he was intending to do bodily harm to the other parent, and accidentally killed him.

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Murder 2 : A killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life.

Jul 11, 2010 | 10:10 PM

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It's involuntary manslaughter.
officer didn't mean to kill him, but messed up in a huge way and needs to do prison time

If he was intending to tase a suspect, who is not resisting, and accidentally kills him (no matter how, chokes, medical condition, pistol etc.) isn't that murder 2?

It would only be manslaughter if he was negligent, i.e. driving too fast, but he was working on giving a non resisting suspect pain (I'm pissed and I'm gonna hurt this guy a little) and killed him in error.