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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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turbo timer (local) install

anyone know a good place to get my apexi turbo timer installed on my 03 with factory alarm for good quality and good price? thanks. also anyone help me with my intercooler hoses?
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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you'll find that majority here will say a TT is just about useless in the modern subaru turbos...
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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oh answering your original question...

give gino and crew a call... mpjperformance.com. they are in hayward by the winton airport...

you didnt say what part of the bay area you are in...
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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im in sunnyvale and frisco area, depending on the day. and yeh i know of them and they are great. i had my exhaust installed there. big installs will be done there of course. but i was wondering if there were closer ones for something like a turbo timer install.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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im in sunnyvale and frisco area, depending on the day. and yeh i know of them and they are great. i had my exhaust installed there. big installs will be done there of course. but i was wondering if there were closer ones for something like a turbo timer install.
there is LIC in novato

www.licmotorsports.com
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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just hit up scoobymods.com and DIY.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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you'll find that majority here will say a TT is just about useless in the modern subaru turbos...
why are TT in newer soobs usleless?

thnks d
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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why are TT in newer soobs usleless?

thnks d
Because Subaru set up some sort of gravity fed evaporative cooling thingamabob that will continue to cool the turbo down after the engine is shut off, thus negating the need to keep the engine on to keep the cooling system on.

EDIT: Much better explanation below.

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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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The liquid that cools our turbo (iirc its both coolant and engine oil) is set up so that when it gets too hot it will move to the top of the turbo, and when it cools down it will change phase from gas back to liquid, and in doing so will move back to the bottom, where it will carry more heat to the top. Because this cycle is a chemical change of state and not a mechanical pump setup, there is no need to keep the car on all the time, as the cars were designed to not need TT's to begin with.

Turbo timers were designed for cars that used aftermarket turbocharging that did not have the provisions to properly cool the turbos when the cars were off.

I'm also not 100% sure of this, but i have heard in recent TT discussions that installing a turbo timer can possibly void your warranty. For what reason i don't know, probably something to do with modifying the electrical system to work without the key in it or some crap. Might be something to think about.
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Originally Posted by Seraph
The liquid that cools our turbo (iirc its both coolant and engine oil) is set up so that when it gets too hot it will move to the top of the turbo, and when it cools down it will change phase from gas back to liquid, and in doing so will move back to the bottom, where it will carry more heat to the top. Because this cycle is a chemical change of state and not a mechanical pump setup, there is no need to keep the car on all the time, as the cars were designed to not need TT's to begin with.

Turbo timers were designed for cars that used aftermarket turbocharging that did not have the provisions to properly cool the turbos when the cars were off.

I'm also not 100% sure of this, but i have heard in recent TT discussions that installing a turbo timer can possibly void your warranty. For what reason i don't know, probably something to do with modifying the electrical system to work without the key in it or some crap. Might be something to think about.
not like we have a warranty in the first place.........
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Agreed, but some people might sleep better believing that they DO have one
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraph
The liquid that cools our turbo (iirc its both coolant and engine oil) is set up so that when it gets too hot it will move to the top of the turbo, and when it cools down it will change phase from gas back to liquid, and in doing so will move back to the bottom, where it will carry more heat to the top. Because this cycle is a chemical change of state and not a mechanical pump setup, there is no need to keep the car on all the time, as the cars were designed to not need TT's to begin with.

Turbo timers were designed for cars that used aftermarket turbocharging that did not have the provisions to properly cool the turbos when the cars were off.

I'm also not 100% sure of this, but i have heard in recent TT discussions that installing a turbo timer can possibly void your warranty. For what reason i don't know, probably something to do with modifying the electrical system to work without the key in it or some crap. Might be something to think about.
I have a 04 sti, and i never cool down the car. maybe that's why it's putting weird.... but this info makes me feel better, thanks
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Where did you get this information from? You do know the coolant and oil flows through the turbo to cool the shaft and bearings (if applicable) right?

So where in the turbo do you think this "chemical factory ala' minature" happens?
I got that information here, or rather from an article that subaru released that was linked from here. If you wanna find it, its probably buried in the tons of TT discussions that are all over the place. It sounds like you might be skeptical, but i'm sure that subaru does use a phase cooling system for the turbo.

And I admit it would seem that from my first sentence i made no mention of the coolant and stuff actually running into the turbo to cool it, but i assumed that most people knew this as a fact. What i was trying to say that when the coolant is not flowing through a mechanical pressure, i.e. when the car is off, the phase cooling takes place.

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