...unless you're a member of the Good Ol' Grand Theivery Party!

 

i forgot about that party

 

Wow, I'm kind of pissed now. good thing i register in september.

 

good point but ultra conservative bush would say de-nay-no. look at canada, he tried to intervien with that.

and for those who want to get Davis thrown out, gimme a friggin break. maybe all your friends should have voted. how about we cost our state even more money, that should solve everything. or how about we just so happen to elect the guy who is leading the whole "anti-davis campaign" and paying for it with his own money.

sorry for the rant, but you gotta pay to play and cali likes to play alot.

 

here's food for thought.

The republican representative who is the driving force behind the recall effort is an accuesss car thief. Has a police and court record to prove it too.

the SFGate article


How can you good honest republican voters trust a guy like this? Davis deserves to be recalled, but he is far better than this car thief. How can you call Issa credible when he is has a documented history of car theft?

 

look, davis' mistake was assuming that all the taxes from the business in kalifornia would make up the bulk of the state budget.

it didnt. dotcom went and gone.

where does he look to now? cutting back everything. see? he is a republican after all...

 

That's not the point. Issa has a history of car theft. This article mentions 3 incidents after he was 18, who knows how many he actually stole and got away with.

If he has such low morals as to steal cars, why do you think he would be a good representative of the republican party?

for example, Clinton's affair with an intern was imoral, but legal. Issa's car theft history is not only imoral but illegal. Why is he so much better than Davis? Davis does not have a police record that I am aware of.

And if you want to talk about stealing budget surpluses, ShrubCo has totallly surpassed Davis by taking our country from it's first budget surplus in 20+ years and turned into a very impressive 500 billion dollar deficit, in 3 years for crips sakes!! No other president in history has done so much damage to our nations fiscal health than ShrubCo.

 

i was reading TIME mag last nite.

small blurb. those in the 14k to around 26k income range pay little or no income tax.

yet they want more tax breaks for that segment?

WTH?!?

(slightly deviating from the thread...)

 

in some states, what he did is illegal... still laws in the books...

plus, you have think, issa's stuff was way before. maybe the man's changed.

but klinton... well, he did it in office and forever tarnished the office of the presidency of the united states...

but hey... it depends on what your definition of IS is... right?

 

I don't belive for a minute that ISSA has changed. Being a thief is part of his basic personality. At best he has learned to hide it better (he became a politician) With his past history, this recall is yet another attempt to move his political ambition forward after losing the senate race to barbra boxer. BTW, he lost because of the car theft thing. What is different now? nothing.

As for clinton, he broke no federal law. But I still don't agree with what he did. He lied while in office, just shrubCo lied about Iraq's WMD programs.

Who's lie damaged the country more? Clinton, shrubco? Clinton didn't start a war, cost the lives of US troops from his lieing now did he?

 

Gray Davis, believe it or not, isn't totally at fault for the energy crisis. The last energy deregulation plan was approved by Pete Wilson. Cali got screwed by the Feds when they showed evidence that the energy companies were abusing the state. The Feds don't care, and that is BS.

Cali residents want medical MJ, and voted it into law. The Feds disagree, and the U.S. Supremes voted that doctors cannot prescribe it legally, so basically its a case of Federal law superceding State law. Cali residents won't stand for that, and our Cali attorney general has basically told the DEA to sit on their nightsticks and spin. Cali cries: "States' Rights", and the Feds will point out Slavery and Segregation as precedents for Fed intervention. It really sucks.

Riordan, AFIK, was supposedly a moderate republican. He would have to be to be Mayor of L.A., which voted in socialist bastards like Villaraigoso to rep them in the State Assembly/Senate.

One republican I outright hated was Dan Lundgren, who used to be state attorney general under Pete Wilson.

As far as Cali budget crises go, I don't know if the Governor even has the power to straighten out all the problems.

Due to problems with local politics and environmental issues, Northern California cannot build freeways fast enough (post '89 quake, I-580/I-680 interchange), and when they finally get around to it, what they build is obsolete by the time its completed.

I could go on for days about our isht public school systems, and how they are so good at wasting our money. Anyone that owns a house knows what I mean.

As far as the morality/criminal issue of Issa goes, I can't trust someone who commits that kind of criminal act & fraud. I would have voted for a 3rd. term for Clinton, because I thought the whole Lewinsky thing was BS (who cares who you're tapping!!! so many people cheat, why be a puritan hipocrite?).