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Old 04-22-2014, 08:44 AM
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All we need is carbon roof, even better bigger brakes, full array of bolt on things like strut bars and chasis bracing bars, 350hp, 8k redline less than 3200lbs, track day goodies like harness, safety equip, neat shades of paint. That being said I think a new sti modded to my taste would be amazing.
If the STi is already knocking on $40K, how much do you think those items will add to the already hefty bottom line?

I think the power is fine but over the past 10 years you'd think they'd be able to get better MPG out of the same amount of HP. Personally, I'd rather see Subaru work on the MPG with the same 300ish HP. Maybe lose 3-400 lbs? That would be a much better direction to head IMHO as fuel economy is playing a large part in people's decision making these days. Losing weight would also make the car faster without adding any HP. Win win?

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I always figured the reason they didn't increase power is because WRC spec cars are always right around 300hp.
When were they last in WRC?


I looked it up 6 years ago! The last time they won anything was 2003

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Originally Posted by sigma pi
When were they last in WRC?


I looked it up 6 years ago! The last time they won anything was 2003
About the time they started trying to make cars for americans. i.e. the 2.5 liter motor.
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Eh I like the 2.0L
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I would like to see a "luxury" line. "Lexus" legacy or something like that, if that makes sense.
I'm going to have to say that would be a bad idea.

All the complaining about horsepower, I have yet to want for more of it. I have yet to out drive my car but that's just me. Its not a muscle car.
In 100% agreement here. For the street, do we really need more than what these cars are capable of in stock form (not "we" as in da iCrub, but the rest of the sheep)? If you want more, you mod so you can get what you want out of it and spend what you want on it. Most of us on here are going to do that anyway.

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Let's just put a 4G63 in it.
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
About the time they started trying to make cars for americans. i.e. the 2.5 liter motor.
They need to do something.......... but they are selling cars like no other.
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Can we just use an RB20?
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Originally Posted by eastbaysubaru

If the STi is already knocking on $40K, how much do you think those items will add to the already hefty bottom line?

I think the power is fine but over the past 10 years you'd think they'd be able to get better MPG out of the same amount of HP. Personally, I'd rather see Subaru work on the MPG with the same 300ish HP. Maybe lose 3-400 lbs? That would be a much better direction to head IMHO as fuel economy is playing a large part in people's decision making these days. Losing weight would also make the car faster without adding any HP. Win win?

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Agreed with more MPG as a selection criteria. More smiles per mile.
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Go get a different car if you want fuel efficiency. It's not the easiest with an AWD drivetrain and a motor that loves fuel.
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I don't think the sti is needed for the street and that somehow you can magically use 300hp perfectly on the street.

I think people underestimate the feeling of torque. I've never modified my med turbo sti because I wanted my car to be fast, I've done it because I like the feeling of power and torque. The sti has always been down this path. 300hp in the sti is no more usable than 380hp imo.

It scares me that so many of you want the 300hp because it tells me you haven't seen the difference between a stock sti and a tuned stage 2. Yes i'll go as far as saying neone thinking a stock sti is in anyway better or advantageous to a stage 2 (tbe+tune) you are flat out wrong. You are missing out big time as the car is made better 10 fold in everyway and with the increased power is still far easier to use the power on the street and especially the corners due to the increased low end and spool.

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This is why I hate dyno queens.
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Originally Posted by Heedz
This is why I hate dyno queens.
And armchair reviewers. Never driven it, but it isn't enough. Just like those saying 200hp wasn't enough for the BRZ before it even came out.
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Let's just put a 4G63 in it.

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And armchair reviewers. Never driven it, but it isn't enough. Just like those saying 200hp wasn't enough for the BRZ before it even came out.
Yeah. Or how people call the miata slow. Yeah maybe from a dead stop or in a straight.


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