If the STi is already knocking on $40K, how much do you think those items will add to the already hefty bottom line?

I think the power is fine but over the past 10 years you'd think they'd be able to get better MPG out of the same amount of HP. Personally, I'd rather see Subaru work on the MPG with the same 300ish HP. Maybe lose 3-400 lbs? That would be a much better direction to head IMHO as fuel economy is playing a large part in people's decision making these days. Losing weight would also make the car faster without adding any HP. Win win?

-Brian

 

When were they last in WRC?


I looked it up 6 years ago! The last time they won anything was 2003

 

About the time they started trying to make cars for americans. i.e. the 2.5 liter motor.

 

Eh I like the 2.0L

 

I'm going to have to say that would be a bad idea.

In 100% agreement here. For the street, do we really need more than what these cars are capable of in stock form (not "we" as in da iCrub, but the rest of the sheep)? If you want more, you mod so you can get what you want out of it and spend what you want on it. Most of us on here are going to do that anyway.

LOL.

 

Let's just put a 4G63 in it.

 

They need to do something.......... but they are selling cars like no other.

 

Can we just use an RB20?

 

Agreed with more MPG as a selection criteria. More smiles per mile.

 

Go get a different car if you want fuel efficiency. It's not the easiest with an AWD drivetrain and a motor that loves fuel.

 

I don't think the sti is needed for the street and that somehow you can magically use 300hp perfectly on the street.

I think people underestimate the feeling of torque. I've never modified my med turbo sti because I wanted my car to be fast, I've done it because I like the feeling of power and torque. The sti has always been down this path. 300hp in the sti is no more usable than 380hp imo.

It scares me that so many of you want the 300hp because it tells me you haven't seen the difference between a stock sti and a tuned stage 2. Yes i'll go as far as saying neone thinking a stock sti is in anyway better or advantageous to a stage 2 (tbe+tune) you are flat out wrong. You are missing out big time as the car is made better 10 fold in everyway and with the increased power is still far easier to use the power on the street and especially the corners due to the increased low end and spool.

 

This is why I hate dyno queens.

 

And armchair reviewers. Never driven it, but it isn't enough. Just like those saying 200hp wasn't enough for the BRZ before it even came out.

 

 

Yeah. Or how people call the miata slow. Yeah maybe from a dead stop or in a straight.


Nooooo I hate v8 swaps.