Subaru needs to step up...
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Subaru needs to step up...
...to combat this:
CONFIRMED: VW's Burly-***, 395-hp Golf R 400 Will Be Built! | Car and Driver Blog
Discuss.
CONFIRMED: VW's Burly-***, 395-hp Golf R 400 Will Be Built! | Car and Driver Blog
Discuss.
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I think the first thing Subaru needs to do is build a better motor (internally). The Sti will probably go to the new FA series motor but for god sakes put some forged Pistons/Connecting rods in the engine. For me the 305hp rating the Sti is less of an issue than the cast pieces used in a so called performance motor, the reason the HP in the Sti isn't increasing is that the engine cannot handle the extra ponies.
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I think the first thing Subaru needs to do is build a better motor (internally). The Sti will probably go to the new FA series motor but for god sakes put some forged Pistons/Connecting rods in the engine. For me the 305hp rating the Sti is less of an issue than the cast pieces used in a so called performance motor, the reason the HP in the Sti isn't increasing is that the engine cannot handle the extra ponies.
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If that Golf R hits the states it will be like $42,000 base price probably.
The current Golf R isn't even that great for the money. You can't even turn traction control off all the way until you flash the ECU.
The current Golf R isn't even that great for the money. You can't even turn traction control off all the way until you flash the ECU.
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That 2L on the CLA45 AMG has 360HP, it's also AWD and it gets 23 CITY and 31 Highway. Subaru has to aim higher - my GR only gets around 20 miles per gallon - the engine sucks and they need to do better (reliability, mileage and power).
The M235i has a 6 cylinder inline-6 turbo making 320 WHP and it gets 32 MPG highway.
Why are these engines so much more efficient than the current subaru 4 cylinder engines?
The M235i has a 6 cylinder inline-6 turbo making 320 WHP and it gets 32 MPG highway.
Why are these engines so much more efficient than the current subaru 4 cylinder engines?
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That 2L on the CLA45 AMG has 360HP, it's also AWD and it gets 23 CITY and 31 Highway. Subaru has to aim higher - my GR only gets around 20 miles per gallon - the engine sucks and they need to do better (reliability, mileage and power).
The M235i has a 6 cylinder inline-6 turbo making 320 WHP and it gets 32 MPG highway.
Why are these engines so much more efficient than the current subaru 4 cylinder engines?
The M235i has a 6 cylinder inline-6 turbo making 320 WHP and it gets 32 MPG highway.
Why are these engines so much more efficient than the current subaru 4 cylinder engines?
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I just dont see it being very reliable in the long run.
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subaru does need to step it up. Lets speak hypothetically and say they do make a "better" sti….350hp motor,with better pistons,standard BBS wheels,nicer seats (hell even mustangs are getting recaros) better interior, better aero/looks….etc. that will be probably a 40-50k dollar car, maybe not worth it
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It comes down to this: Power, MPG, and Reliability you only get to pick TWO of them.