so i'm sitting here in the waiting room of CAPITOL SUBARU...

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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so i'm sitting here in the waiting room of CAPITOL SUBARU...

well...

so far so good.

justin very helpful at the service desk.

free (but unsecured) wifi... (please folks... it takes 2 seconds to implement some sort of encryption...)

tv with direct tv....:RockOn - not mine:


plus did you know this place offers LIFETIME warranty on their drivetrain? on ANY vehicle you buy from them, new or used????? kinda like jeep/chrysler is now advertizing all over TV...

good luck to them.

overall, i would rate this experience a 7 out of 10. strippers and a free open bar would bump them to 10...
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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i'm sure they didn't secure it because they didn't wanna keep telling people the WEB key and thats always a ***** to type in. but yea... sounds like a nice place.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RU-X
i'm sure they didn't secure it because they didn't wanna keep telling people the WEB key and thats always a ***** to type in. but yea... sounds like a nice place.
lol yeah it sort of defeats the purpose of having a key when you have a sign displaying the key.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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why should it be encrypted?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Lifetime!?!

Can you ask to double check?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Lifetime!?!

Can you ask to double check?
yup yup... saw that sign there last time i was there.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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why should it be encrypted?
when its your house, u'd wanna encrypt it so that people don't use your bandwidth. but if its a public place i'd think its easier to just leave it alone. but the problem with that... is that if someone does something illegal with your bandwidth then your liable.... i think.... but i'm sure the network admin at capital subaru thought about that and has something to cover their ***.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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if someone does something illegal with your bandwidth then your liable....
Well, I didnt know that. Thats a good reason. I leave it open at my house and at the shop, just because I will never use all the bandwidth and I always appreciate a free network
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RU-X
i'm sure they didn't secure it because they didn't wanna keep telling people the WEB key and thats always a ***** to type in. but yea... sounds like a nice place.

for me, securing a WAP is different than allowing free access to it.

securing means encrypting the data between the machine and WAP.

granted, WEP is easily crackable and WPA-PSK just takes time and appropriate s/w, but that's like leaving your car wide open with the windows rolled down and doors left open vs closing everything and arming the alarm.

again, modern o/s allow such easy access to WAPs these days, that it windows xp even prompts you to type in the key.

so even if the owners put up a sign saying what the key is, it takes less than 5 seconds to type in twice.

i just want my traffic encrypted... and that's what even the basic WEP does.
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Lifetime!?!

Can you ask to double check?
i asked justin, the service dude and he wasnt too sure about the terms.

i joked about people bringing in a dead suby on a flatbed with all sorts of race stickers like it just came from a drag race event with broken axles...

one major point is that they down "sell" the warranty itself.

they "honor" the lifetime warranty, which sounds to me, like a 3rd party sells it and they just participate in the program.

to me, even at those terms, is a major bonus selling point than say another suby dealer who doesnt even offer it.

only concern is if you move and the only suby dealer by you isnt part of this program.

at least all the signs around there say it's part of purchase price so it's not an additional cost.
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
i asked justin, the service dude and he wasnt too sure about the terms.

i joked about people bringing in a dead suby on a flatbed with all sorts of race stickers like it just came from a drag race event with broken axles...

one major point is that they down "sell" the warranty itself.

they "honor" the lifetime warranty, which sounds to me, like a 3rd party sells it and they just participate in the program.

to me, even at those terms, is a major bonus selling point than say another suby dealer who doesnt even offer it.

only concern is if you move and the only suby dealer by you isnt part of this program.

at least all the signs around there say it's part of purchase price so it's not an additional cost.
Then it's totally bogus because those 3rd party companies fight to the death to not give money on claims. They send inspectors and are very apt to say that the car was abused.
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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oh it's there... trust me... there is NO FREE LUNCH!! Oh and there is no spoon

Originally Posted by ldivinag
at least all the signs around there say it's part of purchase price so it's not an additional cost.
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