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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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It's pretty sad. In my opinion people need to realize what snitching is. Snitching is going out of your way to inform on somebody who trusted you e.g. friend with information or information you happen to know and choose to go tell. If you witness a murder of a police oiffcer or something equally unjust, you aren't snitching by giving up their location, especially if they chose to do so right in front of you, or in your building, thats retarded. The guy is an idiot, simply put noone should befriend or help out complete idiots. to bad nobody had any ***** to do anything, obvious he would go down either way at that point.


Lets see how good of police protection that building gets now!!!!!!! LOL hopefully none.

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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If you had a choice between keeping quite and getting shot, your perspective might be a little different.

Actually BEING in this situation, as opposed to speculating about other people's lives from behind a computer, is a world of difference.

Besides, there is pride associated with shutting the **** up...even if you go tp prison for it.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aboothman
If you had a choice between keeping quite and getting shot, your perspective might be a little different.

Actually BEING in this situation, as opposed to speculating about other people's lives from behind a computer, is a world of difference.

Besides, there is pride associated with shutting the **** up...even if you go tp prison for it.
Pride... Only way I can see this being the case is if it is one of you "homeboys" that did the shooting.

Pride in not telling for someone that just happened to see is stupid. There is no pride there. And there is NO CHOICE between keeping quite and getting shot. It's not like you need to wear a sign around your neck that says... I am the one who told.

It's called... find a payphone. Make a call. If you point the cops in the right direction they'll probably figure it out on their own from there. I mean if you're that scared of getting shot. Criminals make mistakes. Talk to much. Leave evidence. If they can find one link it unravels from there. Detectives are overworked as it is.

You watch too many crime movies. This wasn't some mafia hit. It was a douche bag thug with some guns.

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aboothman
If you had a choice between keeping quite and getting shot, your perspective might be a little different.

Actually BEING in this situation, as opposed to speculating about other people's lives from behind a computer, is a world of difference.

Besides, there is pride associated with shutting the **** up...even if you go tp prison for it.
yea but if they shot a cop couldn't you same something anonymously, obviously my own safety comes first..........but I figure im smart enough to find a way to do the right thing, or at least try. I personally don't take pride in being so scared of other people I won't do what I see to be right.

Theres no pride associated with being too scared and too ***** and choosing to protect a parole cop killer..................now associating pride with that sounds like speculating about ones lives from behind the computer if anything.

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Let's say u are a prison inmate, and u just saw one inmate stab to death another inmate. The guards ask u if you saw anything. Would u "snitch" on the murderer?
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnWRX
Let's say u are a prison inmate, and u just saw one inmate stab to death another inmate. The guards ask u if you saw anything. Would u "snitch" on the murderer?
That is completely different than seeing a murder in a place others could have seen it... in the outside world and completely unrelated to this issue.


and there are elements you are leaving out. was it in the yard. was it in a cell. was it in the showers. where there other inmates that saw it and could have been questions. etc.


Would you give another dude head? If you were in prison and you had to choose between getting beaten to death or giving someone head would you do it?
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Attack me all you want, but the reality is most of us have no clue about the world we are speculating about. All the high moral ideals go out the window when people are doing this **** to stay alive. The streets have a way of finding snitches...Is it smart to stay quiet? Well, that depends on whether you want your *** to be found dead or not.

If you really care so much, why don't you guys drive on down to your local crime scene, and start asking questions.

I too could argue speculated situations to attempt to prove my point, but I prefer more general statments that are actually meaningful to the topic. Have a great day
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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well my point is I'd at least try. being afraid not help the police, and not wanting to cooperate for personal reasons are different things. But in the end you are right too, its a tough call..........just sucks it took so long for someone to come forward.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
An assumption is thinking you know where people are from based on the cars they drive.
I'm using it as an example, and there are plenty. Anyone who got a degree in college is considered not poor, they could afford college. But like I said earlier, maybe if you came from a ghetto and experienced when someone snitched or you snitched instead of hiding online and just commenting on "justfication" then you'd consider probably shutting your mouth up. That's why plenty of dope dealers would rather get pinched and spend some time in the jail rather than put your life sentence flat for the guy who fed you the dope.

Their choice their streets, what the lady said was true, and unfortunately until someone educates them and there is actual enforcement (rather than just banter and no one does it anyways because there isn't safeguards) then there isn't going to be change in this scenario.

So how did a nice county (rich county) get all dandy about being justified people in their area? They aren't watching their backs with other rich folk who aren't trying to put a 9mm into their back. Less to worry about.

Maybe there should be more education on "anonymous calling" for the public on ads or something. Keep putting that into their mind and it might be a quick fix for a problem that obviously will continue.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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It's easy to judge the decisions of others after the fact and without similar life experiences. Behaviors are developed based on the circumstances of a persons up bringing that I can't begin to understand. I doubt the people who hesitated when coming forward did so because they woke up one day and decided that "loose lips sink ships." Is withholding critical information out of fear or any amount of life experience morally right? No, but I can see why a person might.

What I find most sad that this behavior is cyclical. When people don't help law enforcement fight these institutions they only empower them. Keeping silent helps an institution and the institution's strength and influence grows. It's been quoted various ways but I believe it goes something like: "Evil prevails when good people do nothing."

It's also irresponsible to assume that with holding information (of varying importance) for any reason (life threat, fear, financial motivation, loyalty, etc.) is limited to "the ghetto" or "poor neighborhoods." Assuming that people who live in these areas need to be educated or don't know better is nothing short of ignorant. It's a social problem that has gone on for decades if not centuries. It's not a quick fix like education or an ad campaign.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SomethingClassy
It's easy to judge the decisions of others after the fact and without similar life experiences. Behaviors are developed based on the circumstances of a persons up bringing that I can't begin to understand. I doubt the people who hesitated when coming forward did so because they woke up one day and decided that "loose lips sink ships." Is withholding critical information out of fear or any amount of life experience morally right? No, but I can see why a person might.

What I find most sad that this behavior is cyclical. When people don't help law enforcement fight these institutions they only empower them. Keeping silent helps an institution and the institution's strength and influence grows. It's been quoted various ways but I believe it goes something like: "Evil prevails when good people do nothing."

It's also irresponsible to assume that with holding information (of varying importance) for any reason (life threat, fear, financial motivation, loyalty, etc.) is limited to "the ghetto" or "poor neighborhoods." Assuming that people who live in these areas need to be educated or don't know better is nothing short of ignorant. It's a social problem that has gone on for decades if not centuries. It's not a quick fix like education or an ad campaign.
You sir are right. Usually when the ethics of things come in is when people give good thought. The unfortunate part with creating a solution with parts of ethics and knowledge is that (from my manager) cost effectiveness is the primary issue driving solutions. If it's cheap and affordable they'll do it, but if it's time consuming and consumes too much money, then they probably won't.
Another point of emphasis is that it happens in rich neighborhoods too. If a kingpin or mafia owner gets someone assassinated for snitching, others would probably tend to not report anything in the future. The fear is everywhere... and to sum that point up, even the Fed uses it. When you learn it from a government you wonder why it's an unsaid law.
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