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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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From my experience with druggie criminals, the most likely ones to pull a B&E, it'll be someone that knows what you have in the house. They'll also know if your setup is just a deterrent or actual security. Hell, now everyone on i-club will know you have cameras, so the cat is out of the bag.

If people in the hood are breaking into your place cuz they hate you, then maybe the problem ain't them hoss...
Seriously dude??? You say some of the stupidest ****.




Jeff... If you are gonna do it, I'd listen to paul and gagan. Be a good idea to put some dummy cams up and get at least 2 good cams set up to your comp.
Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Seriously dude??? You say some of the stupidest ****.
Quoted for serious truths being told.
Old Sep 7, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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I saw a nice looking one at costco you can view remotely from your iphone or comp.
It hooks up to your wireless network. Sorry I don't remember who makes it by I know the company is here in San Jose.
Here is an image taken from my cam, it's made by: Swan, decent day/night cam.
I live near capitol and mckee, and there's always something going on around here!
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
From my experience with druggie criminals, the most likely ones to pull a B&E, it'll be someone that knows what you have in the house. They'll also know if your setup is just a deterrent or actual security. Hell, now everyone on i-club will know you have cameras, so the cat is out of the bag.

If people in the hood are breaking into your place cuz they hate you, then maybe the problem ain't them hoss...
Bleh for every 10 that hate, there's one that doesn't. Those are the ones that matter anyways.

"those that matter don't mind and those that mind don't matter"
Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
Seriously dude??? You say some of the stupidest ****.
No doubt.. It's like... Lboogie.... Is that you?? Sometimes I really think so..
Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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I'm an insurance adjuster and get hundreds of vandalism and theft claims each year. I have only had a few claims where camera's were present and visible. Take that for what it is worth. Working or not, i do not think it really matters.
Old Sep 7, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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My 2 cents - I have been involved in security systems several times.

Higher resolution = more money, more disk space, more delay (saving off site).
IP = more money but infinitely easier to set up/maintain
Motion sensor = more money, but the camera will only activate when there is motion (saves disk space).
Dummy cameras = less money, are nearly as effective as real cameras.
Swivel and Zoom = more money, important if you wish to control the unit remotely
Filters = more money, but may greatly increase efficacy if used in foggy areas.
Remote paging alarms = more money.
Satellite or Cell = more money.
Weather proof case = more money.


My suggestion is to go with fewer higher quality IP cameras plus obvious mules with LED's. Look for cameras that will work with the ambient light (ie when it's dark and when it's light out).

If it's just security, ignore tilt/swivel. Get a minimum of 2 estimates since there is a significant mark-up on installations. Get only the software options that you KNOW you will use. I strongly suggest Linux over Windows or proprietary systems.

Paul is correct, put the dummy cameras where they are very visible and the real camera at an oblique angle. My neighbor put a large black (one way glass) box above his door - looks like it must contain a camera ... nope, his camera is mounted about 10 feet away in the corner and it's disguised, very subtle.

Consider playback - some of these systems, especially the analog, come with many cameras. How do you go back and view them? How easy is the software? Think about maintenance, what do you do if the computer fails? (that's why Linux is soo smooth here, it's very easy to repair).

If you are serious, you will want offsite storage/upload. It's easy to spend money here, but I think one GOOD (recognize a face in the ambient light day and night) IP camera + 3 dummies are better than the 15 analog that you cannot recognize someones face in.
Old Sep 8, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys. Didn't even think about the dummy cameras. Although it does seem as though it much more complicated than I thought.

This is a raf for a few of you. According to one of those that "mind".
"I am a liar and can not be trusted".
So this a warning for the rest of you...LOL
Old Sep 8, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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The other problem is electrical power, cameras need that to operate. Assuming its not a crackhead smash N grab, any thinking thief neutralizes security before filling up his Grinch bag.

Another idea, booby traps. Tiger Pit anyone?
Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
The other problem is electrical power, cameras need that to operate. Assuming its not a crackhead smash N grab, any thinking thief neutralizes security before filling up his Grinch bag.

Another idea, booby traps. Tiger Pit anyone?
dont think your insurance will cover that
Old Sep 8, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
More like I<3subie
No, no way. The grammar, spelling and complete sentences have already ruled him out.
Old Sep 9, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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what about those ones you see at costco. anyone try them?
Old Sep 9, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Gagan commented on it. He says their no good. It looks like you're in $1K for something worth a damn. It's only money right...
Old Sep 9, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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30 days return policy. Try it, if it doesn't produce a good picture, return it. The reviews are good, so it's worth testing. If it works, buy a bunch more. Then you can run all the wiring to a central location, and then use a separate DVR unit or buy a PC and security camera card for the cameras to plug into.



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