Pirates Shoot at U.S. Navy Helicopter
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Too bad we're the only country to follow ROE...otherwise that ship woulda been sunken. There's gotta be some secret squirrel plan though, why they would send a helo for recon with no plans of attack doesn't make sense.
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This would more than likely come in the form of a US seal team slipping aboard said ship...and lots of very dead skinnies.
ROE are there to establish a system of when it is appropriate to shoot, not kill everything possibly suspect (and out of ammo when you need it). This area of the world is where the ROE are especially needed, people you often suspect are the ones that mean you no harm and those that you don't suspect do. Simply put ROE keeps noncombatants from getting killed and keeps good men from getting killed or making mistakes.
I agree that we shouldn't open fire on anything that looks at us sideways, but I don't think most soldiers would. Discretion > ROE.
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Read Lone Survivor, talk to some vets who are in foreign countries where the enemy dresses as civilians and the problems ROE create in those situations.
I agree that we shouldn't open fire on anything that looks at us sideways, but I don't think most soldiers would. Discretion > ROE.
I agree that we shouldn't open fire on anything that looks at us sideways, but I don't think most soldiers would. Discretion > ROE.
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f*ck them! send in NO ONE! let them all die in hell
as long as they are not messing with American ships and any of our invested interests let the UN<--
and other nations fetch their OWN citizens
as long as they are not messing with American ships and any of our invested interests let the UN<--
and other nations fetch their OWN citizens
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The helo in question was the MH-60S "Knighthawk"
"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of MarineAV-8B Harrier II jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
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"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of MarineAV-8B Harrier II jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
Yea yea I am a ex squid
The helo in question was the MH-60S "Knighthawk"
"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of Marine AH-8A jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
Yea yea I am a ex squid
"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of Marine AH-8A jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
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The helo in question was the MH-60S "Knighthawk"
"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of Marine AH-8A jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
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"The primary means of defense is with the M60D, M240 or GAU-17/A guns. A "batwing" refit (Armed Helo Kit) based on the Army's UH-60L was developed to accommodate Hellfire, Hydra 70 2.75" rockets, or a larger guns or cannon."
The navy won't send up a unarmed aircraft without some kind of protection. So even if it was a MH-60A (non armed), then someplace in strike range was a pair of F-18 fighters, or a couple of Marine AH-8A jump jets ready to pounce. Its SOP on all navy missions to have jets in the air, and birds on the 'pults in a "alert 5" spot.
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That's fine. I'm a former sailor too. I can not count the amount of times in 3yrs of flight quarters, we sent our bird equipped with nothing. The armament they are capable of carrying was never fit to the aircraft. Certainly never equipped with hellfires. While flying MIO in the gulf we did fit a boat anchor.
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They weren't there for hostage negotiation and retrieval, as I read it. More of a "know what the hell is going on out there" recon flight.
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Enter 1 fast attack submarine, stage left.
Sub reaches periscope depth, launch a couple of torpedos.
Sub comes up, takes positions at 50 caliber gun station, and target practice with heads bobbing up from the surface.
Whoever's not dead will be soon with the blood in the water...
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