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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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second see street racing, its illegal and not accepted here.
I would point out, that not one of our cars, unless its 100% bone stock OEM, is "legal" going strictly by the VC.
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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put oem dp back on, keep all the bling outta sight and just drive it to the smog shop.
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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I would point out, that not one of our cars, unless its 100% bone stock OEM, is "legal" going strictly by the VC.
VC, what part is it illegal putting a FMIC on?
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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VC, what part is it illegal putting a FMIC on?
I thought legally you cant touch anything after the MAF and before the catalyst unless carb approved.
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sigma pi
VC, what part is it illegal putting a FMIC on?
joltdudeuc has brought this up a few times... On paper, it should be fine, though I'm yet to hear any first hand accounts of it being truly kosher.

It is weird though that an intake needs an EO number, but an intercooler apparently doesn't.

Edit: see page 7. Be glad we're not running diesels I suppose.

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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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This thread again.. fug
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by de_engineered
joltdudeuc has brought this up a few times... On paper, it should be fine, though I'm yet to hear any first hand accounts of it being truly kosher.

It is weird though that an intake needs an EO number, but an intercooler apparently doesn't.

Edit: see page 7. Be glad we're not running diesels I suppose.
Yes and No! An intercooler can be swapped out with a factory intercooler without EO # IF it still maintains the factory pipes and couplers! I heard it from the horse's mouth with my own ears! When the local state referee have questions, they talked to this guy and he makes the final judgement.

So a FMIC is NOT LEGAL unless it has EO #!

That's my first hand account because I was getting an AW11 MR2 BARed with a 3S-GTE!
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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That's my first hand account because I was getting an AW11 MR2 BARed with a 3S-GTE!
This part gave me a tingling feeling in my pants.
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AggPerMS
Yes and No! An intercooler can be swapped out with a factory intercooler without EO # IF it still maintains the factory pipes and couplers! I heard it from the horse's mouth with my own ears! When the local state referee have questions, they talked to this guy and he makes the final judgement.

So a FMIC is NOT LEGAL unless it has EO #!

That's my first hand account because I was getting an AW11 MR2 BARed with a 3S-GTE!
Oh, they make it tricky don't they? But good to know.

I guess one could, with some work, put a new Forester XT motor (w/100% factory FMIC) into a rex? I've never seen inside the engine bay of one, just theorizing.

Did your Gen 1.5 pass then? None of these schenanigans?
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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This part gave me a tingling feeling in my pants.
Me too.

Learned stick on an AW11. Stock 4A-GE was plenty for that purpose haha.
Old Aug 14, 2014 | 12:25 AM
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Did your Gen 1.5 pass then? None of these schenanigans?
I have done three. The 5SFE AW11 passed easily. The first 3SGTE AW11 took some work but it eventually passed! The second 3SGTE AW11 didn't ... #$%#%#$ ... again, I got first hand account about the law!!! I think the customer turned it into a track car.

I haven't done another since but I found another loophole around the law. One can install a CARB legal intercooler and I bet it's easier to try to fit a greddy side mount because the stock SW20 doesn't fit. OR easier to modified a greddy IC pipe and not be obvious!

But I like CARB ... I've been to Mexico and my lungs prefer California air.
Old Aug 14, 2014 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AggPerMS
But I like CARB ... I've been to Mexico and my lungs prefer California air.


First off, if "carb" was about anything other than money, all they would care about is what comes out the end of the tailpipe. Not that you have "the correct smog stuff" not that you "did a swap" just what the motor is producing.

Second, do you really think its the cars that produce "smog"...really? Not perhaps oh, the factories that are all unregulated, the ships that all burn bunker fuel...
Old Aug 14, 2014 | 06:10 AM
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Rolling Coal...

...we will try not to dwell on diesels, whose only purpose for existence is to pollute the air as much as possible and **** on any good 20 Prii do by not polluting.

Google "Rolling Coal"

Definition of diesel.
Old Aug 14, 2014 | 06:18 AM
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I think it was a magazine article that I read last year where they talked about 1 single cargo ship putting out more "smog" in one trip than all the cars in the US put together for 1 whole year.

CARB

lol

Also as mentioned above - they are a joke. A joke that rakes in millions each year.

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