Need List of Acceptable Mod Parts.
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Need List of Acceptable Mod Parts.
I remember seeing a post in the BAIC that had a scanned page from a gov't manual listing the parts that can & can not be changed smog-wise.
Please help me find this document...yes, I've tried searching for it.
Thanks
Paul
Please help me find this document...yes, I've tried searching for it.
Thanks
Paul
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I don't know if this will help, and you've probably already seen it, but...
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...og+regulations
There are some laws listed there as well as talk of a scanned list in some SEMA thread that I can't find. There are also some direct links to some CA.GOV pages. It's mostly exhaust specific, not modification legalities overall.
There's also the approved EO list at...
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
I'm probably playing capt. obvious here, I know.
https://www.i-club.com/forums/showth...og+regulations
There are some laws listed there as well as talk of a scanned list in some SEMA thread that I can't find. There are also some direct links to some CA.GOV pages. It's mostly exhaust specific, not modification legalities overall.
There's also the approved EO list at...
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
I'm probably playing capt. obvious here, I know.
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More companies need to start taking the effort of companies like AEM and start gettin things legal.....if a company as small as MadDad is doing it why can't someone like Cobb?
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anything that is related to smog output and does not have a C.A.R.B. number is not legal. anything that changes the timing is not legal. Technically cams, cam gears, higher output injectors..etc....all illegal.
More companies need to start taking the effort of companies like AEM and start gettin things legal.....if a company as small as MadDad is doing it why can't someone like Cobb?
More companies need to start taking the effort of companies like AEM and start gettin things legal.....if a company as small as MadDad is doing it why can't someone like Cobb?
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The doc had a list of "Not Allowed" & "Allowed "items.
Something like this:
Not allowed
-turbochargers
-fuel injectors
-maf housing
Allowed
-intercoolers
-filters
Something like this:
Not allowed
-turbochargers
-fuel injectors
-maf housing
Allowed
-intercoolers
-filters
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That's thinking small....
When you think honda what is the first company you think of???? Me..it's AEM.
Why is that? Why do the DOMINATE the aftermarket community? Are there other decent intakes, etc around? Yup. Are they as good...some are. No sticker. Same with DC headers. That's all you see in the honda community. Why...they're legal.
When you think big....get those numbers next to your parts you open up an entirely new market. The folks that would mod if it was legal. That is why you see SOOO many cars with nothing but intakes...they're legal.
There is a market for parts legal or not legal but if you start delivering parts that ARE legal then you will sell to a big chunk of those that would mod anyways and have an entirely new market.
It's like providing wagon specific sway bars or front lips. Nobody makes them. You put them out there you have your own market.
hey paul...sorry for the hijack. I remember that list. I'll see if I can find it.
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I say **** it. My car is pretty much illegal. Anyone with a DP...illegal...I just choose to buy my parts that don't say "hey look at me!!!" ie big shiny fart cannon. Stock appearance aftermarket parts FTMFW! 
What happened Paul?
What happened Paul?
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OMA : do some investigating on what it takes to get a part CARB approved. It is, needless to say, far from a cheap process (think 5 figures...easily....not to mention quite a bit of paperwork, politics, etc to get ONE part approved). And yes, it is not a process entirely free from corruption, in that WHO you are can have as much influence on whether the part gets approved as WHAT the part is 
If the market isn't there to spread that investment out over many parts, chances are the company won't bother.
Subaru parts are, unfortunately, not a huge market in relation to something like a Honda or Chevy...
If the market isn't there to spread that investment out over many parts, chances are the company won't bother.
Subaru parts are, unfortunately, not a huge market in relation to something like a Honda or Chevy...
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OMA : do some investigating on what it takes to get a part CARB approved. It is, needless to say, far from a cheap process (think 5 figures...easily....not to mention quite a bit of paperwork, politics, etc to get ONE part approved). And yes, it is not a process entirely free from corruption, in that WHO you are can have as much influence on whether the part gets approved as WHAT the part is
If the market isn't there to spread that investment out over many parts, chances are the company won't bother.
Subaru parts are, unfortunately, not a huge market in relation to something like a Honda or Chevy...
If the market isn't there to spread that investment out over many parts, chances are the company won't bother.
Subaru parts are, unfortunately, not a huge market in relation to something like a Honda or Chevy...
I'm aware of how difficult it is and why people don't do it...because the market doesn't force them..it's expensive.etc.
Hence things like 49 state legal parts..etc. Even production cars that are 49 state legal. California has a problem that needs to be fixed in this department if you ask me...could start by not having FULL TIME paid law makers. One of the only states that does that...hence so many useless laws.
But that's just me.....market gets what it demands.
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That's thinking small....
When you think honda what is the first company you think of???? Me..it's AEM.
Why is that? Why do the DOMINATE the aftermarket community? Are there other decent intakes, etc around? Yup. Are they as good...some are. No sticker. Same with DC headers. That's all you see in the honda community. Why...they're legal.
When you think big....get those numbers next to your parts you open up an entirely new market. The folks that would mod if it was legal. That is why you see SOOO many cars with nothing but intakes...they're legal.
There is a market for parts legal or not legal but if you start delivering parts that ARE legal then you will sell to a big chunk of those that would mod anyways and have an entirely new market.
It's like providing wagon specific sway bars or front lips. Nobody makes them. You put them out there you have your own market.
hey paul...sorry for the hijack. I remember that list. I'll see if I can find it.
When you think honda what is the first company you think of???? Me..it's AEM.
Why is that? Why do the DOMINATE the aftermarket community? Are there other decent intakes, etc around? Yup. Are they as good...some are. No sticker. Same with DC headers. That's all you see in the honda community. Why...they're legal.
When you think big....get those numbers next to your parts you open up an entirely new market. The folks that would mod if it was legal. That is why you see SOOO many cars with nothing but intakes...they're legal.
There is a market for parts legal or not legal but if you start delivering parts that ARE legal then you will sell to a big chunk of those that would mod anyways and have an entirely new market.
It's like providing wagon specific sway bars or front lips. Nobody makes them. You put them out there you have your own market.
hey paul...sorry for the hijack. I remember that list. I'll see if I can find it.
most honda guys i met prefer the jdm itr 4-1 header than the dc as well.
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You'd figure with this kind of cummunity we'd have all this kind of stuff bookmarked..haaa
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