need BAIC help on ECU stuff
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need BAIC help on ECU stuff
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sooo, this weekend i got my downpipe installed finally, and while i was updating the ecu with my APv1, it bricked. not sure how, but it did.
The ECU is off to Cobb today, but my APv1 is now dead, married to a bricked ecu. I initially thought i would do the trade-in program or buy a used APv2 and be done with it.
The other option is all this open source stuff. But my concern is getting the right maps for my mods so to speak. I haven't searched too much, but should i assume that there are good open source stage 2 maps out there? for the short temr, that is my biggest concern. once i get my ecu back, i need to flash it for the catless tbe i currently am running.
i am currently looking for deals on APv2 but can easily be swayed to get a tantrix cable and go open source. open source seems a bit cheaper in the end.....
any and all help/opinions is MUCH appreciated. as you can guess, time is somewhat an issue here....
josh
sooo, this weekend i got my downpipe installed finally, and while i was updating the ecu with my APv1, it bricked. not sure how, but it did.
The ECU is off to Cobb today, but my APv1 is now dead, married to a bricked ecu. I initially thought i would do the trade-in program or buy a used APv2 and be done with it.
The other option is all this open source stuff. But my concern is getting the right maps for my mods so to speak. I haven't searched too much, but should i assume that there are good open source stage 2 maps out there? for the short temr, that is my biggest concern. once i get my ecu back, i need to flash it for the catless tbe i currently am running.
i am currently looking for deals on APv2 but can easily be swayed to get a tantrix cable and go open source. open source seems a bit cheaper in the end.....
any and all help/opinions is MUCH appreciated. as you can guess, time is somewhat an issue here....
josh
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why didn't you send the ap to cobb as well? They probably would have taken care of it for you.
You can do the trade in or sell the ap1 for mad cheap and let someone else do it and go opensource. Tuners can still tune opensource. The problem lies in how easily the user can mess with it. And the temptation is often to high for some folks. Start messing with stuff and blow your motor up you have no one to blame and no shop support. All on you.
If you go opensource I highly suggest having a tuner tune it. I'd just call a tuner and ask them....
OS is definitely cheaper but I like the fact that you can have multiple maps on the AP. and just change them super easy. I don't trust myself with OS and a computer. haaa.
You can do the trade in or sell the ap1 for mad cheap and let someone else do it and go opensource. Tuners can still tune opensource. The problem lies in how easily the user can mess with it. And the temptation is often to high for some folks. Start messing with stuff and blow your motor up you have no one to blame and no shop support. All on you.
If you go opensource I highly suggest having a tuner tune it. I'd just call a tuner and ask them....
OS is definitely cheaper but I like the fact that you can have multiple maps on the AP. and just change them super easy. I don't trust myself with OS and a computer. haaa.
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thanks OMA
Cobb wont support the ap v1 anymore. I am much like you in that as i get older, i want to mess with this stuff less and less. so the APv2 seems like a decent idea. access to a tuner is hard up here, and I think i will probably go the OS in the future. I'd like to be a tuner myself if that makes sense, i just dont have a ton of time to dedicate THIS WEEK!! ugg.
now i just need to find a decent deal on an APv2. I have sent PM's to a few people on iwst selling theirs. hopefully someone has one for a deal....
josh
Cobb wont support the ap v1 anymore. I am much like you in that as i get older, i want to mess with this stuff less and less. so the APv2 seems like a decent idea. access to a tuner is hard up here, and I think i will probably go the OS in the future. I'd like to be a tuner myself if that makes sense, i just dont have a ton of time to dedicate THIS WEEK!! ugg.
now i just need to find a decent deal on an APv2. I have sent PM's to a few people on iwst selling theirs. hopefully someone has one for a deal....
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if you have very basic mods OS has PLENTY of well-tested "off-the-shelf" maps. just take a look at the romraider forums.
if you're thinking you will go opensource and actually mess with your tune in the future start reading up now before you even touch a map. you may find that your temptation to change maps is a lot less than you think (that has been my case). i really only check on my tune when the weather changes to make sure stuff is alright.
if you're thinking you will go opensource and actually mess with your tune in the future start reading up now before you even touch a map. you may find that your temptation to change maps is a lot less than you think (that has been my case). i really only check on my tune when the weather changes to make sure stuff is alright.
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thanks OMA
Cobb wont support the ap v1 anymore. I am much like you in that as i get older, i want to mess with this stuff less and less. so the APv2 seems like a decent idea. access to a tuner is hard up here, and I think i will probably go the OS in the future. I'd like to be a tuner myself if that makes sense, i just dont have a ton of time to dedicate THIS WEEK!! ugg.
now i just need to find a decent deal on an APv2. I have sent PM's to a few people on iwst selling theirs. hopefully someone has one for a deal....
josh
Cobb wont support the ap v1 anymore. I am much like you in that as i get older, i want to mess with this stuff less and less. so the APv2 seems like a decent idea. access to a tuner is hard up here, and I think i will probably go the OS in the future. I'd like to be a tuner myself if that makes sense, i just dont have a ton of time to dedicate THIS WEEK!! ugg.
now i just need to find a decent deal on an APv2. I have sent PM's to a few people on iwst selling theirs. hopefully someone has one for a deal....
josh
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yes, i do plan to have a "custom" tune done. time is a serious issue for me though.
Ed, would you get the AP or use OS? What do YOU like to tune?
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Ed, would you get the AP or use OS? What do YOU like to tune?
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I agree with Ed on this one.
If you're wanting to be a tuner then OS might not be a bad way to go. You can get a custom tune with OS. Then later down the line start self tuning... (your choice, your risk of course).
If you carry your lap top around you can swap tunes easy enough.
On the AP tip though. I hear the AP2 has a lot of nice new features.
oh and Paul isn't too far from you. In fact I think he lives near Truckee.
If you're wanting to be a tuner then OS might not be a bad way to go. You can get a custom tune with OS. Then later down the line start self tuning... (your choice, your risk of course).
If you carry your lap top around you can swap tunes easy enough.
On the AP tip though. I hear the AP2 has a lot of nice new features.
oh and Paul isn't too far from you. In fact I think he lives near Truckee.
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yeah, Paul is right in Roseville (shop). i PMed him a while back and never heard back. bummer.
And at this point, i think i am going to APv2 for now, and after the first of the year, start using OS. I am looking at dyno's also (pricey buggars), hence the "i want to be a tuner" part. i have been wrestling with this for a while, and my ECU bricking yesterday has me feeling helpless. I dont like that.
I have heard the same good things you have about the AP also....
josh
yeah, Paul is right in Roseville (shop). i PMed him a while back and never heard back. bummer.
And at this point, i think i am going to APv2 for now, and after the first of the year, start using OS. I am looking at dyno's also (pricey buggars), hence the "i want to be a tuner" part. i have been wrestling with this for a while, and my ECU bricking yesterday has me feeling helpless. I dont like that.
I have heard the same good things you have about the AP also....
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IMO, the AP holds the major advantage for people who need to switch between maps relatively often, and do so quickly and easily. This is useful for people running race gas, meth injection, E-85, etc. The AP V2 also offers some nice data logging features that can be useful for providing feedback to a tuner or performing remote tunes.
For people who will not be using multiple fuels and switching maps often, a good OS tune is a great option. They can save $600-$700 on an AP and instead just pay for the tuning time. Most such people who buy the AP end up keeping it in their closet between tunes.
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Dude, save yourself the big headache and just get a V2... Or if you want to give up on Cobb all the way you can always take it to Ed at EQ, or you can go to Shiv ( 
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that is what i am going to do for now. THEN, i am going to go see Ed when i have time to go OS. He doesnt know it yet, but i have been mind melding him for months taking all his secret tuning methods......
off to find a used v2 AP. ECU will be on a plane tnight headed to Utah.....
josh
that is what i am going to do for now. THEN, i am going to go see Ed when i have time to go OS. He doesnt know it yet, but i have been mind melding him for months taking all his secret tuning methods......
off to find a used v2 AP. ECU will be on a plane tnight headed to Utah.....
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Oh Noooes!
Seriously though, if you're really interested in learning to tune, I do offer tuner training sessions as well. I have trained and support a couple professional tuners as well as several DIY hobby tuners. The sessions are not cheap, but well worth it for the knowledge and techniques you gain.
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good luck on the finals!!!!
ed, i will be contacting you soon re:classes (supercalifragalistically fired up!). proly after the 1st of the year.....
josh
PS i just got a used apv2 for a good price. in chico no less....
ed, i will be contacting you soon re:classes (supercalifragalistically fired up!). proly after the 1st of the year.....
josh
PS i just got a used apv2 for a good price. in chico no less....
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