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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Stupid ****ing *****,

1)Ignored the officers LAWFUL order to stay in the car
2)Ignored the officer once she was under arrest
3)Continued to ignore lawful orders

She got what she deserved, I hope they don't go too hard on the LEO. I do think he should have got backup there to watch the kids fast, however...The woman is 100% in the wrong here, and were I on the jury, I would hope that the officer counter sues her so I could push for a HUGE fine against her. ****ing dumb ***** put her kids in danger, not the officer. Hopefully CPS takes her kids away from her before she does harm to them.

Its not hard people, DON'T IGNORE A LEO'S ORDERS. Do as your asked, you can always have a lawyer later who will rip into them for their actions.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoolin415
If she stayed in the car she wouldn't have ben tased.
I totally agree. Her getting out of the car was stupid, but he did handle the situation very irrationally. But then again you never know who the person is.. kids or not.. she could have been dangerous so she should have gotten back in and stayed in the car and waited for him to come back, then talk to him about the tape.

Although, I can't say him yanking her around was proper. But again.. wouldn't have happened had she stayed in the car.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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1st mistake was getting out of the car. 2nd mistake is asking to review the tape, doesn't work that way, thats why we have courts. 3rd mistake getting back in the vehicle and refusing to listen to orders. You cant see the tape you have to wait until trial. The kids were also 15 and 5, no toddlers so no big deal. On top of that they are inside of a car not freezing outside. It doesn't matter if your kids are there or not, if your going to jail you are going no matter who is there. These videos are the same crap as always just different day.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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I know she was in the wrong but that officer could have peacefully resolved the situation he did not need to throw her around and taze her!

She wasn't violent and all he had to do was grab her hand into an arm bar like cops are trained to do, or he could have done it like20 different ways before razing her. What if that was ur mom, would u still be saying she deserved it? That lady did not deserve that, the cop didn't even attempt to restrain her in any other way! He went right for the taxer!!!!
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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^^failed to cooperate. he had the right.

yeah he could have definitely gone a different route.. but over all she asked for it.
if it was my mom i would have said "mom wtf were you doing getting out of the car when he was yelling at you to get back in?!"
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelee
I know she was in the wrong but that officer could have peacefully resolved the situation he did not need to throw her around and taze her!

She wasn't violent and all he had to do was grab her hand into an arm bar like cops are trained to do, or he could have done it like20 different ways before razing her. What if that was ur mom, would u still be saying she deserved it? That lady did not deserve that, the cop didn't even attempt to restrain her in any other way! He went right for the taxer!!!!
She outright ignored the lawful orders, she got everything she deserved and then some. As I said, lets hope the cop gets in no trouble, and her kids are taken away by CPS. People like that give the rest of us law abiding citizens a bad name, and make LEO's suspect we will all cause problems.

Then she has the audacity to sue the police department because SHE broke the law? WTF!
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
She outright ignored the lawful orders, she got everything she deserved and then some. As I said, lets hope the cop gets in no trouble, and her kids are taken away by CPS. People like that give the rest of us law abiding citizens a bad name, and make LEO's suspect we will all cause problems.

Then she has the audacity to sue the police department because SHE broke the law? WTF!
The cop probably should have picked a different fishing expedition. As for using the tazer for an uncooperative suspect, are you a cop. If you are maybe its time to review escalation of force. Was she stupid for getting out of the van, well yes. Were his actions appropriate for the situation, hell no, and he should be held to a higher standard as should anyone in a position of authority. I think the problem is LEO'S being indoctrinated into thinking it's them against us. When in reality they are just one of us.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pbchief2
The cop probably should have picked a different fishing expedition. As for using the tazer for an uncooperative suspect, are you a cop. If you are maybe its time to review escalation of force. Was she stupid for getting out of the van, well yes. Were his actions appropriate for the situation, hell no, and he should be held to a higher standard as should anyone in a position of authority. I think the problem is LEO'S being indoctrinated into thinking it's them against us. When in reality they are just one of us.
you know, if she had pulled out a gun and killed the officer, you would be the first screaming how he didn't do the right thing, and should have XYZ...

You can armchair quarterback all you want, the facts are...

1)She broke the law
2)She ignored lawful orders
3)She put the officers life in danger (by not following orders)

I don't think he acted out of line at all, hell before the advent of tazers she would have been SHOT, so she should count her lucky stars the LEO are given the ability to use A less than lethal response.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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He "Could've been more gentle" true, but in the moment there's no way for him to know what is going on in her mind. The basic facts are that he has a non-compliant suspect who is acting strangely and is attempting to get back into her car. As far as he knows she could have warrants or is attempting to flee, risking a high speed chase which would put others in danger since she started this all up before allowing him to check her out.

She could've been more reasonable as well, I would've been asking the officer permission before doing ANYTHING. I realize we must hold our officers to a higher standard but where do we hold average joe to be responsible for their own actions. She was off her rocker and while the response was quite severe he gave her many chances. I don't agree with his methods but she didn't help at all. He wasn't flying out at her, he was responding to her actions.
Old Aug 16, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Overbear
you know, if she had pulled out a gun and killed the officer, you would be the first screaming how he didn't do the right thing, and should have XYZ...

You can armchair quarterback all you want, the facts are...

1)She broke the law
2)She ignored lawful orders
3)She put the officers life in danger (by not following orders)

I don't think he acted out of line at all, hell before the advent of tazers she would have been SHOT, so she should count her lucky stars the LEO are given the ability to use A less than lethal response.
No she wouldn't of been shot, common sense dictates that much. It looks to me the officer put both their lives in danger by not deescalating the situation like a normal person might have. You have no proof that she broke the law before the stop of that video. By the way you put things maybe the us populace should be disarmed since we all have the capacity to be a danger to LEO's. Maybe every stop needs to be a felony stop that way the mayhem this lady caused would stop.

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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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Supporting police brutality is supporting fascism.

The woman shouldn't have gotten out of the car, the officer used excessive force -- another case of everyone doing something wrong.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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I'm pretty sure that they can't replay videos, or have a screen of which to do so. I think the video has to be downloaded/removed from the vehicle's onboard system.

She shouldn't have gotten out of the car, but I think the officer did overreact though. I wish we could hear the real audio.
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