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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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So I hear humans will be ready for a one-way trip to settle Mars starting as early as 20 years from now.

How does that make you feel?
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Debt has always been WITH the U.S., just go back on the debt clock and see when it went into the negatives. The focus on debt NOW, rather than before to me seems all too planned out. Obama won the election because of economy, and now he hasn't seemed so nice in the office and another panic attack on... well debt? Since debt has been around long before Obama, I think it just takes our attention away from discoveries and funding where it should be for exploration.

There are things called the media, and there are things call lies. I think this is all a hoax, economic deficits, blah blah blah. Sure we've HAD at deficit for a long time. Really long, previous to G.W. Bush, inflating home prices and the crash told us that. However it isn't anywhere near the point of panic, and the failed excuses of "econmics and money management" with the U.S.

When I actually see poor people struggling for bread, walking the streeets without an Iphone, and the malls are empty. I might think it's actually believable. Not being able to get a job in the SERVICE sector (which would mean a shift and liquidation of things that didn't work) is different than finding a new skill and getting a job in the manufacturing sector (which is what America needs to export and to compete).

People need to understand that if we took the WHOLE GLOBAL economy, i'm talking about GLOBAL, not just the U.S. plus 5 years would actually pull us out of the deficit we're in to hit neutral. This urgency of deficit reduction is far too late, and chipping away at it is something to do, cool, great, dandy. But the focus is off base and isn't much of a concern to me. Instead of all the people bickering with each other, we should be spending time on things out there.

Cuz as you know we're about the grain of sand on a beach compared to the rest of the universe.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Debt has always been WITH the U.S., just go back on the debt clock and see when it went into the negatives. The focus on debt NOW, rather than before to me seems all too planned out. Obama won the election because of economy, and now he hasn't seemed so nice in the office and another panic attack on... well debt? Since debt has been around long before Obama, I think it just takes our attention away from discoveries and funding where it should be for exploration.

There are things called the media, and there are things call lies. I think this is all a hoax, economic deficits, blah blah blah. Sure we've HAD at deficit for a long time. Really long, previous to G.W. Bush, inflating home prices and the crash told us that. However it isn't anywhere near the point of panic, and the failed excuses of "econmics and money management" with the U.S.

When I actually see poor people struggling for bread, walking the streeets without an Iphone, and the malls are empty. I might think it's actually believable. Not being able to get a job in the SERVICE sector (which would mean a shift and liquidation of things that didn't work) is different than finding a new skill and getting a job in the manufacturing sector (which is what America needs to export and to compete).

People need to understand that if we took the WHOLE GLOBAL economy, i'm talking about GLOBAL, not just the U.S. plus 5 years would actually pull us out of the deficit we're in to hit neutral. This urgency of deficit reduction is far too late, and chipping away at it is something to do, cool, great, dandy. But the focus is off base and isn't much of a concern to me. Instead of all the people bickering with each other, we should be spending time on things out there.

Cuz as you know we're about the grain of sand on a beach compared to the rest of the universe.

Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Debt has always been WITH the U.S., just go back on the debt clock and see when it went into the negatives. The focus on debt NOW, rather than before to me seems all too planned out. Obama won the election because of economy, and now he hasn't seemed so nice in the office and another panic attack on... well debt? Since debt has been around long before Obama, I think it just takes our attention away from discoveries and funding where it should be for exploration.

There are things called the media, and there are things call lies. I think this is all a hoax, economic deficits, blah blah blah. Sure we've HAD at deficit for a long time. Really long, previous to G.W. Bush, inflating home prices and the crash told us that. However it isn't anywhere near the point of panic, and the failed excuses of "econmics and money management" with the U.S.

When I actually see poor people struggling for bread, walking the streeets without an Iphone, and the malls are empty. I might think it's actually believable. Not being able to get a job in the SERVICE sector (which would mean a shift and liquidation of things that didn't work) is different than finding a new skill and getting a job in the manufacturing sector (which is what America needs to export and to compete).

People need to understand that if we took the WHOLE GLOBAL economy, i'm talking about GLOBAL, not just the U.S. plus 5 years would actually pull us out of the deficit we're in to hit neutral. This urgency of deficit reduction is far too late, and chipping away at it is something to do, cool, great, dandy. But the focus is off base and isn't much of a concern to me. Instead of all the people bickering with each other, we should be spending time on things out there.

Cuz as you know we're about the grain of sand on a beach compared to the rest of the universe.
You obviously have little to no conception of what you're talking about. I recommend starting here to correct your views on how the economy works:

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Eco...cs+for+dummies

Any additional time you feel like spending outside the fiction section in a bookstore could only be beneficial as well.

While every current administration spins the media in an attempt to better their cause, you're operating in a reality distortion field. The attitude that you won't accept a problem exists until you can personally observe the effects in your daily life is mind-blowing. How can you be so oblivious to what's happening in the world around you?

And yes, there's been a national debt for a long time. What you also must not understand is that it's much more complicated than, "It exists now but it existed before, therefore it's not a problem."
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Thank god I'm not the only one here feeling like that video. Thank you xdeathwishx.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
Debt has always been WITH the U.S., just go back on the debt clock and see when it went into the negatives. The focus on debt NOW, rather than before to me seems all too planned out. Obama won the election because of economy, and now he hasn't seemed so nice in the office and another panic attack on... well debt? Since debt has been around long before Obama, I think it just takes our attention away from discoveries and funding where it should be for exploration.

There are things called the media, and there are things call lies. I think this is all a hoax, economic deficits, blah blah blah. Sure we've HAD at deficit for a long time. Really long, previous to G.W. Bush, inflating home prices and the crash told us that. However it isn't anywhere near the point of panic, and the failed excuses of "econmics and money management" with the U.S.

When I actually see poor people struggling for bread, walking the streeets without an Iphone, and the malls are empty. I might think it's actually believable. Not being able to get a job in the SERVICE sector (which would mean a shift and liquidation of things that didn't work) is different than finding a new skill and getting a job in the manufacturing sector (which is what America needs to export and to compete).

People need to understand that if we took the WHOLE GLOBAL economy, i'm talking about GLOBAL, not just the U.S. plus 5 years would actually pull us out of the deficit we're in to hit neutral. This urgency of deficit reduction is far too late, and chipping away at it is something to do, cool, great, dandy. But the focus is off base and isn't much of a concern to me. Instead of all the people bickering with each other, we should be spending time on things out there.

Cuz as you know we're about the grain of sand on a beach compared to the rest of the universe.

You know what people talking about how the government can do better remind me of? Parents arguing and their little kid reads a book on marriage counseling and steps in and tells the parents what to do, as if the kid knows what the F his parents are arguing about just because he read about it somewhere. He can read all he wants - he hasn't been there and nobody's going to take him seriously. It's just his own universe he's living in - the proverbial frog in the pond. But what can you say to these people? They are convinced they know the truth.


Here we go again. I said this before, come on you are a guy living in the Bay Are with all second hand sources to make up his opinions. You have no real proximity to any of the events and issues you are talking about outside what you have read on the internet. No piece of knowledge you have about anything is a primary source.

Go out and make something of your life, man... you only live once - you wanna use it up complaining about the government? What are you doing about it?
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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^ The only thing I read from many of these previous posts is "Hii, Bahhh, I am sheeple. What our government says is true, we do, we follow orders, we don't question it, the media never lies."

We are American Citizens, and we are supposed to protect our own country from tyranny, even from our government. I'd rather have our government spending time and our money leading the way in innovations and exploration, such as this discovery because this can actually MOVE us in a new direction. Our fiscal crisis has been a crisis and the government hasn't show too much to bring it down.

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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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^ The only thing I read from many of these previous posts is "Hii, Bahhh, I am sheeple. What our government says is true, we do, we follow orders, we don't question it, the media never lies."
<-- Non-Sheeple economist.
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Funniest post of the month!
Old Dec 3, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by iLoqin
^ The only thing I read from many of these previous posts is "Hii, Bahhh, I am sheeple. What our government says is true, we do, we follow orders, we don't question it, the media never lies."

We are American Citizens, and we are supposed to protect our own country from tyranny, even from our government. I'd rather have our government spending time and our money leading the way in innovations and exploration, such as this discovery because this can actually MOVE us in a new direction. Our fiscal crisis has been a crisis and the government hasn't show too much to bring it down.

No it's not "We follow orders" it's "we're doing something with our lives because our lives have productive purpose"

You say you are supposed to protect your country from itself - what are you doing about it? You aren't doing jack crap except complain. Perhaps you will justify that by saying you are "protesting" or "getting the truth out" <-- keep dreaming that you're making a difference.

You wanna REALLY make a difference? Put your time towards productive pursuits, and when you're more successful use your power to influence change. Let me illustrate an example: protest and enact change like Martin Luther King Jr, not like Lyndon LaRouche <-- you can see how the former is productive, the latter is not, but it's easy to fall into the trap of the latter
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